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Old 09-21-2016, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I agree. Greenville is a very good choice.
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I like a lot of Georgia towns and I prefer Georgia over SC, but that's just me personally. I do think that Georgia has a stronger economic base than SC and a stronger economy overall. I know the cost of living is about the same in both states, but that SC has a higher unemployment rate.

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However, SC has a higher high school graduation rate than Georgia, surprisingly.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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I like a lot of Georgia towns and I prefer Georgia over SC, but that's just me personally. I do think that Georgia has a stronger economic base than SC and a stronger economy overall. I know the cost of living is about the same in both states, but that SC has a higher unemployment rate.
And that's all due to Atlanta; GA isn't like most other large states where the economic prosperity is spread throughout the state. SC's largest cities all outperform its peers in GA for the most part. If you're not going to be in Atlanta, there's a good chance you'd be better off in SC over GA.

As far as what the OP is looking for, I think Greenville is a better fit over any GA city.
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Old 09-21-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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And that's all due to Atlanta; GA isn't like most other large states where the economic prosperity is spread throughout the state. SC's largest cities all outperform its peers in GA for the most part. If you're not going to be in Atlanta, there's a good chance you'd be better off in SC over GA.

As far as what the OP is looking for, I think Greenville is a better fit over any GA city.
Ok and you're entitled to that opinion. By the way, SC's "largest cities" are pretty darn small, just for the record.

There's Columbus, Athens, Macon, and Sandy Springs, GA - just to name a few cities that might meet the criteria for the OP - and three of the four are not intertwined with Atlanta at all (Columbus, Athens, and Macon). I'm including Sandy Springs because it's north of Atlanta and even closer to the Appalachians, actually in the foothills of the Appalachians.

Let's look at their unemployment rates:

Columbus - 6.4
Athens - 5.2
Macon - 5.7
Sandy Springs - 5.1

I go to pull up cities in South Carolina with populations just CLOSE to 100k and only find two - Charleston and Columbia. But let's just look at Charleston, Columbia, Greenville (population about 58K) , and oh, what the heck, Spartanburg, population about 38k (because it's a pretty nice town). Their unemployment rates are:

Charleston - 4.6
Columbia - 5.1
Greenville - 4.9
Spartanburg - 5.5

State unemployment rates - GA: 4.9 SC: 5.1 National average - 4.9

So GA is at the national average, and SC has a bit higher unemployment rate than the national average.

So overall, I'd say they're running neck to neck. Neither state is particularly booming but they're both piddling along in a leisurely fashion, for lack of a better way to put it.

The OP would just need to spend a long weekend in GA and a long weekend in SC to see which was the better fit I guess.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:16 PM
 
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Ok and you're entitled to that opinion. By the way, SC's "largest cities" are pretty darn small, just for the record.
No need for quotation marks; there are actually real cities in SC. And the state's cities have artificially small municipal populations due to the state's restrictive annexation laws. Urbanized area and MSA populations tell the real story for SC cities.

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There's Columbus, Athens, Macon, and Sandy Springs, GA - just to name a few cities that might meet the criteria for the OP - and three of the four are not intertwined with Atlanta at all (Columbus, Athens, and Macon). I'm including Sandy Springs because it's north of Atlanta and even closer to the Appalachians, actually in the foothills of the Appalachians.
Sandy Springs is a paper town; it doesn't even have a downtown. It's simply the northern extension of Atlanta, which is quite liberal. The other three could work but Greenville works better because it's much closer to the mountains and not only is it actually more conservative, but it feels more conservative as well, which is probably a plus for the OP.

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Let's look at their unemployment rates:

Columbus - 6.4
Athens - 5.2
Macon - 5.7
Sandy Springs - 5.1

I go to pull up cities in South Carolina with populations just CLOSE to 100k and only find two - Charleston and Columbia. But let's just look at Charleston, Columbia, Greenville (population about 58K) , and oh, what the heck, Spartanburg, population about 38k (because it's a pretty nice town). Their unemployment rates are:

Charleston - 4.6
Columbia - 5.1
Greenville - 4.9
Spartanburg - 5.5

State unemployment rates - GA: 4.9 SC: 5.1 National average - 4.9

So GA is at the national average, and SC has a bit higher unemployment rate than the national average.

So overall, I'd say they're running neck to neck. Neither state is particularly booming but they're both piddling along in a leisurely fashion, for lack of a better way to put it.

The OP would just need to spend a long weekend in GA and a long weekend in SC to see which was the better fit I guess.
Those UE rates are for both states as a whole, not GA's minus Atlanta and SC's, which was my earlier point. GA's GDP minus metro Atlanta is notably smaller than SC's. On the whole, SC's largest cities (see, no quotes needed) are in better shape than their Georgian counterparts.
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:17 AM
 
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No need for quotation marks; there are actually real cities in SC. And the state's cities have artificially small municipal populations due to the state's restrictive annexation laws. Urbanized area and MSA populations tell the real story for SC cities.



Sandy Springs is a paper town; it doesn't even have a downtown. It's simply the northern extension of Atlanta, which is quite liberal. The other three could work but Greenville works better because it's much closer to the mountains and not only is it actually more conservative, but it feels more conservative as well, which is probably a plus for the OP.



Those UE rates are for both states as a whole, not GA's minus Atlanta and SC's, which was my earlier point. GA's GDP minus metro Atlanta is notably smaller than SC's. On the whole, SC's largest cities (see, no quotes needed) are in better shape than their Georgian counterparts.
Augusta should have been in there but the OP could live in a far flug Atlanta suburb and still have what she needs.Somewhere like Dalonega
Greenville is a nice city.I really like it but can seee the OP having issues of being in a big city without the positives.
Augusta has a great road network and is better for medical jobs which the OP says they do.

Its on the Savannah river,only 2 hours or less to Savannah and beaches, and is closer to Atlanta when they may want that for a weekend in a big city,and as well as the mountains which are not that far away either,

Lets be honest,no one looking for a place to live is looking at GDP factor where to llive.
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:10 AM
 
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Augusta should have been in there but the OP could live in a far flug Atlanta suburb and still have what she needs.
uhhh....kind of awkward but uh, I'm a dude.
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:27 AM
 
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uhhh....kind of awkward but uh, I'm a dude.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:54 AM
 
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Augusta should have been in there but the OP could live in a far flug Atlanta suburb and still have what she needs.Somewhere like Dalonega
Greenville is a nice city.I really like it but can seee the OP having issues of being in a big city without the positives.
Greenville is a midsized city, and what do you mean "without the positives"?

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Augusta has a great road network and is better for medical jobs which the OP says they do.
Medical jobs are pretty ubiquitous; any sizable city will have a lot of them, although Augusta has more than its fair share being home of the state's medical university.

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Its on the Savannah river,only 2 hours or less to Savannah and beaches, and is closer to Atlanta when they may want that for a weekend in a big city,and as well as the mountains which are not that far away either,
Greenville is a lot closer to the mountains than Augusta is to either the mountains or the beach. Being in close proximity to one or the other seemed to be a priority for the OP.

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Lets be honest,no one looking for a place to live is looking at GDP factor where to llive.
No, but GDP has a direct connection to jobs.
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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To the OP: you are WAY exaggerating the risk of hurricanes in the cities that you are considering. Even Savannah has a low risk of a direct hit thanks to the Georgia Bight and the distance of the Gulfstream from the Georgia coast. For northbound systems, our coast gets bypassed as a result in favor of the Carolinas.
BTW, Cary, NC liberal? LOL. It's best described as a haven for well-heeled folks in retirement mode. Not exactly Berkeley, no matter where its' residents hail from.
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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Greenville is a midsized city, and what do you mean "without the positives"?



Medical jobs are pretty ubiquitous; any sizable city will have a lot of them, although Augusta has more than its fair share being home of the state's medical university.



Greenville is a lot closer to the mountains than Augusta is to either the mountains or the beach. Being in close proximity to one or the other seemed to be a priority for the OP.



No, but GDP has a direct connection to jobs.
Greenville has very bad roads that are congested around 85 but is getting better with all the construction projects.,it could get a tad messy as if the OP was living in a big city
Augusta is not just home to the states medical school but also a large Veterans Hospital,Ft<Gordon Hospital and a private one

Augiusta is much closer to the beach than Greenville. Augista to Savannah is little over 2 hrs,
Greenville to Charleston is over 3hr

Greenville is closer to mountains but Augusta is much closer to Atlanta.

Augusta has a very strong economy also and GDP is not a factor if both places have jobs and they do.

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