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View Poll Results: Most Northern state?
Maine 21 14.09%
Vermont 8 5.37%
New Hampshire 0 0%
Massachusetts 37 24.83%
Rhode Island 0 0%
Connecticut 4 2.68%
New York 29 19.46%
Michigan 3 2.01%
Wisconsin 2 1.34%
Minnesota 41 27.52%
North Dakota 3 2.01%
South Dakota 0 0%
Nebraska 1 0.67%
Voters: 149. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-21-2016, 06:03 AM
 
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I know the North is just as debated as the South but not as popular. But if you had to choose which state makes you think more "North", what would it be? You can make your own criteria. I have included states that are either geographically North enough for this, and I have left out states that border the South or even border former Southern states because of spillover of Southern culture or traits into those states. And I am including climate as part of a "trait". I have also left out states that could be included in the West simply because once you go west of the Rockies it becomes hard to determine where the North begins.

So, what do you think? I vote Michigan and here is why:

It is very snowy
It borders Canada
It has large amounts of White ethnics
It has large amounts of Muslims and Arabs (and these groups are not associated with any other part of the country except the North)
It has the linguistics of a Northern state exclusively (no Southern or Midland/General American spoken in any region I am aware of)
It has Rust Belt status
It has a strong White Democratic voter base that has UAW and Union history
It has reference to being part of the North in its state song

I am sure I have other reasons but that's it for now. What is your choice and why?
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Old 09-21-2016, 06:23 AM
 
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I'm going to say Ohio because it has a good mix of traits of the Midwest and Northeast, both of which combines make up the North.
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Old 09-21-2016, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Any state that can grow evergreen Southern Magnolias and Mimossa trees (southern Michigan) and have a 6b plant hardiness zone cannot be considered the quintessentially northern state in my mind, just seems silly. Extreme southern Michigan is even further south than parts of California, does that really scream northern?

I'd have to go with Minnissota as its climate is much colder and it reaches the furthest north of any contiguous state.
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Old 09-21-2016, 07:20 AM
 
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Any state that can grow evergreen Southern Magnolias and Mimossa trees (southern Michigan) and have a 6b plant hardiness zone cannot be considered the quintessentially northern state in my mind, just seems silly. Extreme southern Michigan is even further south than parts of California, does that really scream northern?

I'd have to go with Minnissota as its climate is much colder and it reaches the furthest north of any contiguous state.
Minnesota is a good choice. I am not too familiar with the state.

But no part of Michigan is 6b my friend.

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Old 09-21-2016, 07:21 AM
 
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I'm going to say Ohio because it has a good mix of traits of the Midwest and Northeast, both of which combines make up the North.
But...isn't Cincinnati too Southern influenced????
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Old 09-21-2016, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Yes, metro Detroit and the south western coast of Michigan is 6b, even your map shows it if you actually look closer.

Plant zones shifting north as winters warm | Michigan Radio
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Old 09-21-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Yes, metro Detroit and the south western coast of Michigan is 6b, even your map shows it if you actually look closer.

Plant zones shifting north as winters warm | Michigan Radio
I must have a terrible zoom because I can't see it for some reason. Must be tiny.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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I must have a terrible zoom because I can't see it for some reason. Must be tiny.
It's mainly around metro Detroit and south along the river.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:02 AM
 
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Ohio is far too south to be in this poll.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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I know the North is just as debated as the South but not as popular. But if you had to choose which state makes you think more "North", what would it be? You can make your own criteria. I have included states that are either geographically North enough for this, and I have left out states that border the South or even border former Southern states because of spillover of Southern culture or traits into those states. And I am including climate as part of a "trait". I have also left out states that could be included in the West simply because once you go west of the Rockies it becomes hard to determine where the North begins.

So, what do you think? I vote Michigan and here is why:

It is very snowy
It borders Canada
It has large amounts of White ethnics
It has large amounts of Muslims and Arabs (and these groups are not associated with any other part of the country except the North)
It has the linguistics of a Northern state exclusively (no Southern or Midland/General American spoken in any region I am aware of)
It has Rust Belt status
It has a strong White Democratic voter base that has UAW and Union history
It has reference to being part of the North in its state song

I am sure I have other reasons but that's it for now. What is your choice and why?
I did this for New York which IMHO actually think comes out ahead of Michigan for more "northern", if you compare the two. New York for instance borders the Great Lakes and Canada like Michigan but New York also borders the Atlantic which many other northern states do but Michigan does not.

New York is VERY snowy
New York borders Canada (the two most populated provinces in fact)
New York has large amounts of White ethnics (and famous for it)
It has large amounts of Muslims (and these groups are not associated with any other part of the country except the North???)
It has the linguistics of a Northern state exclusively (no Southern or Midland/General American spoken in any region I am aware of)
New York has Rust Belt status
New York has a strong White Democratic voter base that has UAW and Union history
New York has mountains and hills - many northern states do.
New York has large amounts of forests - many northern states do.
New York has a fair amount of farmland - most northern states do.
New York has lots of lakes, many northern states do.

New York borders New England to the east, the Great Lakes to the west, the Mid-Atlantic to the South and Canada to the North. She is part of the Rustbelt and also part of the Bos-Wash corridor.
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