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Old 05-21-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: IN
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Rochester doesn't get as muck lake effect as it's peers.
The highest snowfall amounts in Upstate are downwind of Lake Ontario on the Tug Hill Plateau. Jefferson, Oswego and Lewis counties. Not a sizable population in those areas, but still over 225K.
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:30 AM
 
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The highest snowfall amounts in Upstate are downwind of Lake Ontario on the Tug Hill Plateau. Jefferson, Oswego and Lewis counties. Not a sizable population in those areas, but still over 225K.

Well aware. Im in Utica.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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I've always believed that New York State is one of the most beautiful and underrated states in the country. Upstate has wonderful areas like the Finger Lakes, Letchworth, the Great lakes, Niagara, Thousand Islands, Adirondacks, etc.
But boy oh boy the weather is some of the worst in the country. Endless snowy winters and much cloudiness. I think only northern New England and northern Minnesota and Michigan, and Alaska are comparable or worse.
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Old 05-21-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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I've always believed that New York State is one of the most beautiful and underrated states in the country. Upstate has wonderful areas like the Finger Lakes, Letchworth, the Great lakes, Niagara, Thousand Islands, Adirondacks, etc.
But boy oh boy the weather is some of the worst in the country. Endless snowy winters and much cloudiness. I think only northern New England and northern Minnesota and Michigan, and Alaska are comparable or worse.

They're comparable, but not worse.

Minnesota is much sunnier than Upstate NY. Much sunnier.

New England cities don't get half the snowfall Upstate NY cities do.
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Old 05-21-2017, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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Yes, true, upstate NY has the cloudiest weather outside the Pacific Northwest. A little bit of sun can relieve the gloom.
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Old 05-22-2017, 12:43 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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Minneapolis is fairly mild with seasonal average snowfall totals barely above 50 inches most winters. Minneapolis Spring, Summer, and Fall are also much better than most of the US with very mild temperatures.
Minneapolis regularly sees 20s and teens during the spring and fall. Hardly a mild climate in those times.

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Says someone who has never been to Syracuse or Buffalo.

Does Minneapolis average 120" of snowfall? No. It barely gets half that amount.

Get out more.
More snow doesn't necessarily mean greater cold.

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Heat: Phoenix
Humidity: Houston
Cold: Minneapolis
Cloud: Seattle
Wrong. There are cities in the US far more humid, and regularly see higher dew-points. And of that group of cities, quite a few have seen much higher heat indices. Houston is far from the worst in this regard.

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Those stats don't show how muggy it gets, it shows how long it's muggy.
They already take into account how muggy it gets, as shown with the graphs, as well as indication by the breakdowns (the dew point level cut-offs for each comfort zone). DC not only has a longer period of mugginess than Philadelphia, it also has greater instances of "oppressive" level dew-points, which can be seen by comparing the graphs of the two cities. Baltimore, and especially DC are muggier than Philly, plain and simple.

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Old 05-22-2017, 12:52 AM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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I've always believed that New York State is one of the most beautiful and underrated states in the country. Upstate has wonderful areas like the Finger Lakes, Letchworth, the Great lakes, Niagara, Thousand Islands, Adirondacks, etc.
But boy oh boy the weather is some of the worst in the country. Endless snowy winters and much cloudiness. I think only northern New England and northern Minnesota and Michigan, and Alaska are comparable or worse.
Oh hell yeah, the weather in Upstate New York is disastrous. Even living in New York City, the weather Upstate took me by surprise. New York City is relatively calm with a few 60F days during winter, lots of sun, and pretty much guaranteed warmth from April on. Upstate NY is a completely different story, cloudy and lasting cold, bitter cold well into April and sometimes even May. Even tho you are only a few hours from New York City, it feels like being on a different country when it comes to climate
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Old 05-22-2017, 12:58 AM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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Says someone who has never been to Syracuse or Buffalo.

Does Minneapolis average 120" of snowfall? No. It barely gets half that amount.

Get out more.
Excuse me? My university Upstate NY, if anybody knows how awful the climate is here, it is this poster. I was itching to include Upstate NY since I absolutely abhor the climate here, but I figured Buffalo or Syracuse are not really "cities" the same way that Minneapolis is, more like big towns. So I put in Minneapolis. Also, snowfall does not necessarily equal cold. This winter was the snowiest on record but relatively mild in terms of temperatures. Meanwhile the Siberian winters of 13/14 and 14/15 pretty much had average snowfall, despite having brutal wind chills and below freezing weather up until the end of April
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Old 05-22-2017, 07:09 AM
 
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Excuse me? My university Upstate NY, if anybody knows how awful the climate is here, it is this poster. I was itching to include Upstate NY since I absolutely abhor the climate here, but I figured Buffalo or Syracuse are not really "cities" the same way that Minneapolis is, more like big towns. So I put in Minneapolis. Also, snowfall does not necessarily equal cold. This winter was the snowiest on record but relatively mild in terms of temperatures. Meanwhile the Siberian winters of 13/14 and 14/15 pretty much had average snowfall, despite having brutal wind chills and below freezing weather up until the end of April

Which is the exact reason for bias. Nobody cares about Upstate cities (rightfully so), so they get ignored.

However, Upstate NY has 7 million people, regardless. Minnesota has 5.5 million.

Minneapolis average highs/lows:

December - 27/12
January - 24/7
February - 29/13

Average snowfall - 45 inches

Syracuse average highs/lows:

December - 36/22
January - 31/15
February - 34/17

Average snowfall - 120 inches

Utica average highs/lows:

December - 34/19
January - 29/12
February - 32/14

Average snowfall - 100 inches
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Old 05-22-2017, 07:32 AM
 
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Going out on a limb here: Fairbanks, Alaska?
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