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Old 09-30-2016, 10:50 AM
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The only year between 1960 & 1988 that Louisiana's murder rate was the highest was 1978. But since 1989, it's been the highest every year. Since 1998, Louisiana's incarceration rate has been the highest every year also.That's crazy!!
In 1960, the top 5 most murderous states were: South Carolina, Alabama, Virginia, Florida, and Georgia. Virginia has gotten much better.

During most of the 60s and 70s, Georgia and Alabama took turns being #1 for murder. Other states that made that ranking more than once: Alaska, Nevada(especially in the late 1970s-early 1980s),

1960s: Georgia and Alabama made #1 for murder several times. South Carolina made it in 1960. Alaska hit that ranking in 1966.

1970s: Carbon copy of the 60s. Georgia and Alabama taking turns, with GA making #1 1972-1974, Alabama in 1970, 1975-1976. South Carolina made #1 in 1971. Nevada ranked #1 for murder in 1977 and 1979. Louisiana in 1978.

1980s: Nevada ranks #1 for murder 1980-1981. Alaska ranks #1 in 1982. Texas ranks as #1 for murder from 1983-1986, more than any other state. Michigan hits #1 in 1987, New York in 1988, and Louisiana in 1989. 80s is the first time northern states rank #1 for murder.
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Old 09-30-2016, 10:57 AM
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Texas was crazy in the 1980s.
7 TEXAS CITIES ARE IN TOP 20 IN MURDER PER CAPITA - NYTimes.com

Odessa,TX had a murder rate of close to 30 murders per 100,000, rivaling a very violent Miami in those days. Houston was scary too.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:34 PM
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Historically, the worst murder rates were found in the Southern states. This goes back to the antebellum days. Culture plays a large part of it.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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Yes, the majority of Maryland is affluent and safe. The homicide numbers are EXTREMELY distorted by Baltimore especially and Prince George's County.

Outside of Baltimore and Prince George's County, the murder rate in Maryland is 1.67 per 100,000.

This means that the 4.2 million Marylanders who don't live in Baltimore or Prince George's County are as safe as Maine and Vermont. This is why it makes no sense to look at murder rates by state.
Most of PG county isn't even bad, A LOT if it is actually quite wealthy, it's mostly the parts that border S.E D.C that are very unsafe. Heck for that matter not all of Baltimore is bad either, but who am I kidding. My point is crime in Maryland is pretty isolated.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:47 PM
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Most of PG county isn't even bad, A LOT if it is actually quite wealthy, it's mostly the parts that border S.E D.C that are very unsafe. Heck for that matter not all of Baltimore is bad either, but who am I kidding. My point is crime in Maryland is pretty isolated.
One could say the same about Missouri. KC and St. Louis are driving much of the violence in Missouri. Question is, why is St. Louis so violent compared to other cities with similar demographics? Atlanta is Blacker than St. Louis and far less violent than St. Louis.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:51 PM
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Please define historically: Also have you noticed how the entire crime rate (overall violent crime too, not just murder) has significantly reduced in EVERY state when concealed carry went into affect?

I can still remember all of the liberals spewing their mouths saying that we would return to the "old west" and there would be gun fights in the streets. Hmmm.... crickets now eh?
I cannot believe you ask such a question. I shoudn't have to define "historically". It is what it is. You know what it means, so do not play stupid. I mentioned "antebellum". I didn't not mention anything about gun laws or conceal carry. Notice I talked about "culture".
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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There is absolutely NO correlation between gun laws and the number of murders: Do you have any idea how many legal gun owners there are in Texas? Probably more by population than most other states. So there goes YOUR THEORY up in smoke. BOOOM!! Did you see it go?

New York has some of the toughest gun laws, and the crime rate there is going through the roof.

Lastly, I would love to see crime statistics that compare rural to urban murder rates.

Bottom line: You have consumed entirely too much liberal Kool-aid. Please check yourself into the nearest diabetes clinic.
New York City and New York State are both pretty safe overall, I'm not sure what you're talking about. NYC is the 2nd safest major city in the US behind only San Diego.
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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That map is the reason I don't live in Louisiana anymore. Wonderful food, wonderful people, but gosh darn so violent!
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:16 PM
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That map is the reason I don't live in Louisiana anymore. Wonderful food, wonderful people, but gosh darn so violent!
The economy isn't that good there either.
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Old 09-30-2016, 08:16 PM
 
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In 1960, the top 5 most murderous states were: South Carolina, Alabama, Virginia, Florida, and Georgia. Virginia has gotten much better.

During most of the 60s and 70s, Georgia and Alabama took turns being #1 for murder. Other states that made that ranking more than once: Alaska, Nevada(especially in the late 1970s-early 1980s),

1960s: Georgia and Alabama made #1 for murder several times. South Carolina made it in 1960. Alaska hit that ranking in 1966.

1970s: Carbon copy of the 60s. Georgia and Alabama taking turns, with GA making #1 1972-1974, Alabama in 1970, 1975-1976. South Carolina made #1 in 1971. Nevada ranked #1 for murder in 1977 and 1979. Louisiana in 1978.

1980s: Nevada ranks #1 for murder 1980-1981. Alaska ranks #1 in 1982. Texas ranks as #1 for murder from 1983-1986, more than any other state. Michigan hits #1 in 1987, New York in 1988, and Louisiana in 1989. 80s is the first time northern states rank #1 for murder.
Disaster Center U.S. crime rates 1960-2014 also shows where each state ranked over those years. Looks like Georgia and Alabama were #1 and #2 respectively from 1960-1979 on an annual average basis.
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