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Old 09-29-2016, 07:39 PM
 
Location: 406
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to destroy America. Methamphetamine and Heroin are the TWO most destructive drugs in the universe. And very difficult to get off them. What a better way to destroy our country than to have zombies walking around!!!!!!

We most take back our country....
A meth user who has spent several days deprived of sleep and food, in addition to (or because of) the drug's psychoactive effects and the adrenaline surges it can cause, will pretty much resemble a person having a severe schizophrenic episode (this is called meth-induced psychosis).

It's kinda freaky to see, and unfortunately I'm starting to see it more and more in the state where I live, which is a Western state that was hit pretty hard by meth use and meth-related crime from about 2000-2005. We're definitely seeing the comeback, and yes, I find there is definitely an extent to which I'm concerned for the public's safety because of these people. I've seen for myself, many times in fact, the potential that these crank fiends have for random violence, and it really is unnerving.

To be clear, I would not consider myself to be hostile toward recreational drug users who have some handle on their behavior, but these tweakers really are something else. It's actually my understanding that many of them will eventually turn to heroin once they bottom out on meth (without dying first, I mean).

Personally? I think they're less dangerous on heroin.
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Old 09-29-2016, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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Personally? I think they're less dangerous on heroin.
True, but more of a danger to themselves on heroin than meth.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:12 AM
 
Location: The liquor store
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Except for the treatment of each epidemic, unfortunately.
I don't follow you. Homeless shelters, prisons, and graveyards are overflowing with all three, and any poor area flooded with any of this crap is a very dangerous area. I guess you don't know, a lot of black folks do meth now. It's the new thing in the hood, as is heroin. Crack dealers found a new plug or are out of business.
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The Intermountain West in general has a very high rate of drug overdose deaths. The rate for some reason plunges though in Southern California.

Overall, I don't see the statistics changing for the better as many states choose to ignore it and think that first-responders supplying Narcan in emergency situations is going enough.

Much of it is the introverted culture that fails to recognize issues. The mentality is each person to themselves and not to fund services.

I notice that many areas that rank low in mental health studies tend to have much higher rates of overdoses.

The lowest rates of illicit drug deaths tend to be on the plains. I have lived in the plains states and people tend to have large support networks and the culture doesn't ignore issues to the extent other areas do.

Utah has an extremely high rate of drug overdose deaths.

Carbon County has a staggering overdose death rate of 53 per 100,000 residents.

The area around downtown Ogden has a rate of 51 per 100,000 residents.

Downtown and Western Suburbs of Salt Lake City have many areas of death rates over 30 per 100,000 residents

The national rate is 13 per 100,000.

https://ibis.health.utah.gov/indicat...PoiDth.SA.html

Utah has had a very high rate of drug deaths for years. But the correlation of whether it's religious is up to debate as West Orem for example which is nearly 90% LDS has a rate well below the national average at 9 per 100,000.

The intermountain West in general has extremely high rates of drug overdose deaths. The rate is actually much lower in California.

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Old 09-30-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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I don't follow you. Homeless shelters, prisons, and graveyards are overflowing with all three, and any poor area flooded with any of this crap is a very dangerous area. I guess you don't know, a lot of black folks do meth now. It's the new thing in the hood, as is heroin. Crack dealers found a new plug or are out of business.
He means the social/government response to this current epidemic is very different than the response to the crack epidemic of the 80's and 90's.
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Old 09-30-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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He means the social/government response to this current epidemic is very different than the response to the crack epidemic of the 80's and 90's.
^This.....
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Old 09-30-2016, 04:06 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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Yep. When crack hit black/Hispanic urban areas back in the day, it was a criminal justice issue. This time around with pills/meth/heroin affecting white folks in suburbs, small towns, and rural areas it's more often seen as a medical and public health issue.

The responses will be quite different.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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Yeah, that photo of the grandma and her friend passed out in the minivan with the 4 year old in the back happened across the river. Heroin and prescription drugs are huge here. The police have finally put together a task force to start arresting the dealers.
What every city, state, neighborhood needs is to publicized it, and get it off from under the rug. Lots of States hide their problems, because they want the tourist trade................we need to start at the borders of El Paso, Texas, Arizona, and California. Little is being done, there are a lot of bribes takers.......political and otherwise.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Naples Island
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If you take a closer look at that list, you will observe that all of the states listed, sans New Mexico, are predominately white non-Hispanic and, sans Utah, are very economically depressed overall.
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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1. West Virginia
2. New Mexico
3. New Hampshire
4. Kentucky
5. Ohio
6. Rhode Island
7. Utah
8. Pennsylvania
9. Delaware
10. Oklahoma
Ironic Utah also had the most porn subscribers in the nation at one point. Seems like Mormons are getting into some sketchy stuff.
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