U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
 
Old 09-29-2016, 08:44 PM
 
Location: South Austin, 78745
2,987 posts, read 2,143,029 times
Reputation: 5097

Advertisements

Rice University in Houston and Southern Methodist in Dallas. Both are Ivy League quality schools. I guess you could say they are the Northwestern of the South.

University of Texas in Austin - an Ivy League quality state supported university. Probably the best state supported university in the nation.
Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-29-2016, 08:45 PM
 
619 posts, read 439,073 times
Reputation: 690
What does Ivy League mean these days?
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2016, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
18,633 posts, read 27,064,736 times
Reputation: 9577
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivory lee spurlock View Post
rice university in houston and southern methodist in dallas. Both are ivy league quality schools. I guess you could say they are the northwestern of the south.

University of texas in austin - an ivy league quality state supported university. Probably the best state supported university in the nation.
smu?
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2016, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
7,583 posts, read 4,003,555 times
Reputation: 2926
if you look at the US News rankings and other rankings, there is an obvious bias for old colleges. that is why Ivy League is so highly ranked, UNC (claims to be oldest college founded as a public), Willima and Mary (2nd oldest in country), etc. these rankings also are biased to smaller colleges and private college because they put a big emphasis on selectivity, and obviously smaller private colleges can be more selective than large state universities that have to take x number of in state students. US News has a category for 'academic reputation' that is ranked by faculty at other colleges. obviously the older a college is, the longer it has had to market itself, so faculty at other colleges tend to rank those colleges high because they have strong name recognition. back in the day, Ivy League schools and the early publics obviously had little competition, so they were the 'best' schools by default and this impression has been baked into modern perceptions despite more competition even if it is not the reality.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2016, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
3,965 posts, read 3,277,804 times
Reputation: 6785
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivory Lee Spurlock View Post
Rice University in Houston and Southern Methodist in Dallas. Both are Ivy League quality schools. I guess you could say they are the Northwestern of the South.

University of Texas in Austin - an Ivy League quality state supported university. Probably the best state supported university in the nation.
The line I've always heard about SMU here goes something like this -"SMU: where wealthy Texans have been sending their underachieving children for years". But, if you look at many rankings, it rates much higher than I would expect, so you might be raising a good point.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2016, 06:12 AM
 
97 posts, read 84,650 times
Reputation: 41
It would be between vandy and duke. The 2 best in the south.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2016, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Maryland
4,261 posts, read 5,481,941 times
Reputation: 4594
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivory Lee Spurlock View Post
Rice University in Houston and Southern Methodist in Dallas. Both are Ivy League quality schools. I guess you could say they are the Northwestern of the South.

University of Texas in Austin - an Ivy League quality state supported university. Probably the best state supported university in the nation.
UT Austin is a great school, but either UC Berkeley or University of Michigan are likely the "best" state-supported flagship (if you want to call Berkeley that...) universities.

I'd lump UT Austin in the upper echelon with schools such as UW Madison, UNC, UIUC, University of Washington, etc.

For the best universities in the south, I'd say it's probably a toss-up among Rice, Vanderbilt, Emory, Duke, and GA Tech.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2016, 06:53 AM
 
1,309 posts, read 1,232,765 times
Reputation: 1450
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simpsonvilllian View Post
GT and Texas AM are def. better than unis like UNC and W/M that don't have engineering programs.
How???? Last year UNC was the top ranked public university and this year it is the third.

Top ranked public colleges

Quote:
  • University of California-San Diego.
  • University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
  • University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
  • University of Michigan-Ann Arbor.
  • University of California-Berkeley.
  • College of William and Mary.
  • University of Virginia-Main Campus.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
7,583 posts, read 4,003,555 times
Reputation: 2926
ok, did you read anything that I posted? UNC doesn't have engineering or architecture. how can you say it is better than G Tech and other universities with engineering and architecture.

you are treating the rankings like they cannot be questioned. i believe one of the criteria in the US News rankings is size of the university's endowment, which has no relation to the quality of the professors and programs at universities.

in my opinion, WM has very little name recognition on a national level. it is a small school with no major athletics program.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-30-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: San Francisco/East Bay and Los Angeles, formerly DC and Boston
2,142 posts, read 3,432,558 times
Reputation: 1824
Duke, Rice, Vanderbilt, UVa.
Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


 
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:
Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top