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View Poll Results: The South has defined the culture of the US more than any other region?
Yes it has 21 21.65%
No it hasn't 76 78.35%
Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-30-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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Do you agree with this statement?

The South has defined the culture of the United States more than any other region.

If you look at some of the best things that have come out the US, from music (Jazz, Blues, R&B, Country, Blue Grass) to food (sweet tea, grits, gumbo, barbecue) to a distinct accent to distinct American iconic things (high school football, NASCAR, front porch swings), it seems the cultural influence of the South has outweighed every other region.

My theory is that the South was settled early on by colonists and slaves and then there was little immigration for a long period of time which allowed an isolated culture to develop. The north had so many immigrants that their cuisine is more European in nature (Italian/Irish mainly). The Southwest seems more an extension of Mexico, the Midwest was mainly settled by northern Europeans.

In any case, do you agree with this assessment. Also, can you state why the Southern culture is more monolithic than other places. For instance, the culture of Philly is vastly different than even NYC and they are really close. Also include where you live as I suspect other regions may be more reluctant to admit how much influence the South has had.
Country Music in particular has its roots in Mexico/Texas.
Largely Hip Hop and Rap is from the Urban Centers of the Northeast.
Immigrant Culture is a defining characteristic of the United States, to say that immigrant culture makes a place less American is pretty much dead wrong.
As an American who has never had Sweet Tea, Grits or Gumbo, or watched a NASCAR race much of this seems like how Southern Culture defined the South.
American Literature was defined by Bay Staters, Basketball was invented in Massachusetts, Theatre is controlled by NYC (and originally movies too), most Movies are made in LA.
So no, the South hasn't disproportionately contributed to American Culture.
And also the whole American way comes from the North, the settlers of the south were basically trying to be Europeans, while settlers in the North were trying to escape Europe.
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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The South certainly contributed a lot, especially in the vein of music.

But where does quintessential American culture come from? The boxed version which most of the world identifies us with?

California
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:22 PM
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Location: Miami
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Country Music in particular has its roots in Mexico/Texas.
Largely Hip Hop and Rap is from the Urban Centers of the Northeast.
Immigrant Culture is a defining characteristic of the United States, to say that immigrant culture makes a place less American is pretty much dead wrong.
As an American who has never had Sweet Tea, Grits or Gumbo, or watched a NASCAR race much of this seems like how Southern Culture defined the South.
American Literature was defined by Bay Staters, Basketball was invented in Massachusetts, Theatre is controlled by NYC (and originally movies too), most Movies are made in LA.
So no, the South hasn't disproportionately contributed to American Culture.
And also the whole American way comes from the North, the settlers of the south were basically trying to be Europeans, while settlers in the North were trying to escape Europe.
You've got it wrong, it's not about which region contributed the most to American "Culture," but rather which region has the richest and authentic American culture, and that's the South.
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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Country Music in particular has its roots in Mexico/Texas.
Partially. The "root system" of the genre is mainly Appalachian, particularly eastern TN. Bristol, TN is considered to be the birthplace of country.

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Largely Hip Hop and Rap is from the Urban Centers of the Northeast.
Which partially has its origins in the soul and funk genres that arose in the South.
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Southern culture does not define the country. The West, Midwest and Northeast are different in culture, demographics, linguistics, and politics compared to the South. The South is not the dominating factor in the country.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Originally Posted by btownboss4 View Post
Country Music in particular has its roots in Mexico/Texas.
Largely Hip Hop and Rap is from the Urban Centers of the Northeast.
Immigrant Culture is a defining characteristic of the United States, to say that immigrant culture makes a place less American is pretty much dead wrong.
As an American who has never had Sweet Tea, Grits or Gumbo, or watched a NASCAR race much of this seems like how Southern Culture defined the South.
American Literature was defined by Bay Staters, Basketball was invented in Massachusetts, Theatre is controlled by NYC (and originally movies too), most Movies are made in LA.
So no, the South hasn't disproportionately contributed to American Culture.
And also the whole American way comes from the North, the settlers of the south were basically trying to be Europeans, while settlers in the North were trying to escape Europe.
What about Jazz/Blues? Yes you know it came from African Americans from the South.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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You've got it wrong, it's not about which region contributed the most to American "Culture," but rather which region has the richest and authentic American culture, and that's the South.
Exactly, the other cultures are simply salad bowls of various ethnic cultures. The American South is the true "gumbo".
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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We have some Belgian friends who discovered the American South and Southwest a few years ago and they absolutely LOVE Southern culture (and Tejano/Latino culture as well). They've been to other parts of the US but they always say how much they love the South and how it isn't a very well known region or tourist destination in central Europe. Their European friends are always surprised when they tell them they're going BACK to San Antonio, or New Orleans, or NC's Outer Banks, or the Ozarks or southern Appalachians.

But they totally groove on it. About ten years ago we greeted them with chicken and dumplings, cornbread, black eyed peas, turnip greens, iced tea and banana pudding and they are STILL talking about that meal - they loved it!
My first marriage was to a Swiss national. Her parents would visit us every other year (the other years we visited Europe).

The first time we lived in California. We visited the beach, Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, San Francisco, Los Angeles. They loved the natural beauty of California and "Chinatown".

The second time they visited us in KC. We visited KC and St. Louis. I liked the "Arch" but found the rest of the area uninspiring.

The third time they visited we took them to Memphis and New Orleans. They were "blown away" by the area. We were eating at a Cracker Barrel in the middle of Mississippi and they ordered "fried catfish", they had never had it before (the streams are too cold in Switzerland for catfish). They thought it was the best fish they had ever tasted. On that trip they forced me to take them to get catfish three nights in a row.

The fourth time they visited we took them to San Antonio, Austin, and Dallas. They liked Barton Springs and TexMex cuisine but weren't too interested in Texas.
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Old 09-30-2016, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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For food and music. but I feel California and the northeast influenced food as much if not more than southern eating did. Pop music also doesn't have many roots in the American South.
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Old 09-30-2016, 04:49 PM
 
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For food and music. but I feel California and the northeast influenced food as much if not more than southern eating did. Pop music also doesn't have many roots in the American South.
Yes pop music does. While it can't be pinned down to any one genre, it is rooted substantially in rock 'n roll, which arose in the South.
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