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Old 05-22-2018, 09:54 AM
 
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Atlanta and Miami are more important than Boston and Seattle!? Yikes.

While MSA size is important, output, tourism, education are just as important. For that reason, mine would probably look like this:

1. New York City
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Washington DC
5. San Francisco
6. Dallas
7. Boston
8. Houston
9. Seattle
10. Philadelphia

.......


Atlanta
Minneapolis
San Jose
Detroit
Miami


This is pretty accurate but Boston needs to be above Dallas and Dallas should drop...


1. New York City
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Washington DC
5. San Francisco
6. Boston
7. Houston
8. Philadelphia
9. Dallas
10. Atlanta
11. Seattle


I would consider San Jose to be part of the Metro San Francisco area for this exercise.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Chibostoncaliseattle
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This is pretty accurate but Boston needs to be above Dallas and Dallas should drop...


1. New York City
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Washington DC
5. San Francisco
6. Boston
7. Houston
8. Philadelphia
9. Dallas
10. Atlanta
11. Seattle


I would consider San Jose to be part of the Metro San Francisco area for this exercise.
I think Atlanta is certainly important on a national scale, but do you think it's more important than Seattle? To me, the only area in which it's stronger on paper is simply MSA size and Forbes 500 HQs.

And for San Jose, I considered not adding it simply because I didn't want The Topper to see it. But, being that it's a city of ~1M, it certainly could stand alone from San Fran in the context of this thread. I suppose I could go either way.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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I think Atlanta is certainly important on a national scale, but do you think it's more important than Seattle? To me, the only area in which it's stronger on paper is simply MSA size and Forbes 500 HQs.

And for San Jose, I considered not adding it simply because I didn't want The Topper to see it. But, being that it's a city of ~1M, it certainly could stand alone from San Fran in the context of this thread. I suppose I could go either way.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:27 AM
 
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I tend to think of regional importance as some combination of cultural factors, economic factors, and international influence. Is your area culturally relevant? Does it punch above its weight economically? And does it have exposure and project influence to not only US markets and governments, but world markets and governments?

Looking at it that way, I'd rank them like this:

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. San Francisco
4. Washington
5. Chicago
6. Houston
7. Miami
8. Boston
9. Seattle
10. Dallas-Ft. Worth

The honorable mentions here would be Atlanta and Philadelphia. Definitely arguably in the top 10, but their weaker levels of international influence compared to some of their peers pushes them down a bit in my eyes.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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I tend to think of regional importance as some combination of cultural factors, economic factors, and international influence. Is your area culturally relevant? Does it punch above its weight economically? And does it have exposure and project influence to not only US markets and governments, but world markets and governments?

Looking at it that way, I'd rank them like this:

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. San Francisco
4. Washington
5. Chicago
6. Houston
7. Miami
8. Boston
9. Seattle
10. Dallas-Ft. Worth

The honorable mentions here would be Atlanta and Philadelphia. Definitely arguably in the top 10, but their weaker levels of international influence compared to some of their peers pushes them down a bit in my eyes.
60% of country GDP
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:37 AM
 
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I tend to think of regional importance as some combination of cultural factors, economic factors, and international influence. Is your area culturally relevant? Does it punch above its weight economically? And does it have exposure and project influence to not only US markets and governments, but world markets and governments?

Looking at it that way, I'd rank them like this:

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. San Francisco
4. Washington
5. Chicago
6. Houston
7. Miami
8. Boston
9. Seattle
10. Dallas-Ft. Worth

The honorable mentions here would be Atlanta and Philadelphia. Definitely arguably in the top 10, but their weaker levels of international influence compared to some of their peers pushes them down a bit in my eyes.
Actually, fairly good, but with one glaring mistake, IMHO...

Miami should be last.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Well I appreciate everyone's responses, but the main reason I revived this old thread was that I have been wanting to do a list of the world's top 10 or 20 most influential cities on the world forum, and I just feel like my original original list was just so ridiculous that it would contradict a world list.
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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I think Atlanta is certainly important on a national scale, but do you think it's more important than Seattle? To me, the only area in which it's stronger on paper is simply MSA size and Forbes 500 HQs.

And for San Jose, I considered not adding it simply because I didn't want The Topper to see it. But, being that it's a city of ~1M, it certainly could stand alone from San Fran in the context of this thread. I suppose I could go either way.
Jealous?
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Chibostoncaliseattle
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Jealous?
Of a city that can't even beat Boise on a vs. poll?

Nope!
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Old 05-22-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Chibostoncaliseattle
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Actually, fairly good, but with one glaring mistake, IMHO...

Miami should be last.
Yeah, I'd agree.. In fact, I wouldn't have it on the list. I think there's an inflated sense of worth about Miami coming from the corners of this thread. It's an MSA of 5 Mil, with the same GDP as Seattle. I'm not a huge fan of the city overall to be honest. I do understand that there is some international appeal though, and do appreciate the Latin American influence and culture.

And, IMO, DFW is more important/influential than Houston.
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