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Old 10-19-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Trump is going to win more Black and Latino votes than the typical GOP candidate?

What world do you live in?
i have good instincts on this stuff.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Trump is going to win more Black and Latino votes than the typical GOP candidate?

What world do you live in?
I'm still wondering that myself.

I didn't think about this before, but he mentioned MS and SC -- Aren't these the state with the highest percentage African American population? Didn't we just get through saying that they tend to vote Democratic?

Urban WHITE people in the south tend to vote Republican. White people outnumber black people ergo southern states generally go republican except where the black population is much more significant.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I'm still wondering that myself.

I didn't think about this before, but he mentioned MS and SC -- Aren't these the state with the highest percentage African American population? Didn't we just get through saying that they tend to vote Democratic?

Urban WHITE people in the south tend to vote Republican. White people outnumber black people ergo southern states generally go republican.
suburban white people. white people who live in the city tend to be more liberal.

i did not think it would be controversial for me to point out GOP voters are largely suburban, not rural. i'm not saying there are no rural republican voters, but many of them are single issue type voters, gun rights primarily. maybe abortion and other social issues. often they will actually agree with Democrats on economics, taxes etc.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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that's simply not true. most of the rural poor counties voted for Obama in MS and SC. i looked it up.
I'm not talking about MS and SC; I'm talking about the entire South as a region. The majority of rural counties in the South are red counties. That's simply a fact.

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maybe, but that is mostly on the trade issue and energy issues, like coal and fracking. he is going to win a much higher percentage of black and latino votes as well than GOP usually gets.
You've gotta be kidding me LOL.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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I'm not talking about MS and SC; I'm talking about the entire South as a region. The majority of rural counties in the South are red counties. That's simply a fact.
Period. The End

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Old 10-19-2016, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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ok, i will do an analysis of counties in other states. i agree applachian has shifted to the right, because of the coal, energy type issues, and obviously gun rights. but, the majority of republican votes are in the suburbs, not rural counties. i wsa objecting to GOP voters being described as 'rural'. if you are going to generalize, 'suburban' makes more sense.

but, obviously a lot of poor whites vote Democrat. if Democrats couldn't win poor whites, they wouldn't be a viable party. their whole strategy is to lock up the poor vote. for example, Dems want to raise min. wage, even as high as 15 a hour, GOP generally opposes raising min. wage. obviously Dems have an advantage with poor people.

if 98 percent of peole in SC voted for FDR, that was a lot of poor rural white people voting for Democrats. FDR and Obama no different on economic, tax policies.

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Old 10-19-2016, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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ok, i will do an analysis of counties in other states. i agree applachian has shifted to the right, because of the coal, energy type issues, and obviously gun rights.

but, obviously a lot of poor whites vote Democrat. if Democrats couldn't win poor whites, they wouldn't be a viable party. their whole strategy is to lock up the poor vote. for example, Dems want to raise min. wage, even as high as 15 a hour, GOP generally opposes raising min. wage. obviously Dems have an advantage with poor people.

if 98 percent of peole in SC voted for FDR, that was a lot of poor rural white people voting for Democrats. FDR and Obama no different on economic, tax policies.
You're comparing presidents from largely different eras
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:18 AM
 
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i have good instincts on this stuff.
No, you actually clearly don't.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:19 AM
 
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No, you actually clearly don't.
you might want to wait for the election results.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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ok, i will do an analysis of counties in other states. i agree applachian has shifted to the right, because of the coal, energy type issues, and obviously gun rights. but, the majority of republican votes are in the suburbs, not rural counties. i wsa objecting to GOP voters being described as 'rural'. if you are going to generalize, 'suburban' makes more sense.
In the South, it's both rural and suburban.
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