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Old 10-18-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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I think there was a somewhat similar topic kicking around, but I wasn't able to find it so I thought maybe starting one with a particular comparison in mind could be interesting.

Bridgeport (Chicago), the Mission District (San Francisco), and Sunset Park (NYC) have a lot of similar attributes.

- Diverse populations that are made up of mostly Hispanic, Asian, and White with much of the Hispanic population being mostly Mexican, the Asian population being mostly Chinese, and the White population a combination of people who have been in the neighborhood for a long while and new transplants or people looking for a convenient neighborhood that's affordable and were generally fairly working to middle class.

- Similar rapid transit services to main job centers with Bridgeport being access to the Loop, the Mission access to downtown San Francisco and Sunset Park with access to the Manhattan Financial District and downtown Brooklyn

- Dense, walkable neighborhoods where much of the day to day necessities/amenities are in easy reach.

- The factors above combined have made these neighborhoods particularly attractive to new residents who are looking for cheaper alternatives to more ritzy neighborhoods and have attracted a large amount of artists and younger new residents.

- Fairly large premiere neighborhood parks with Palmisano Park/McGuane Park in Bridgeport, Mission Dolores Park in the Mission district, and Sunset Park in Sunset Park. Each of these parks also feature an elevated topography that give views of the downtown for their respective cities.

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Sunset Park's white population is small, mostly younger whites looking for cheaper rent who tend not to stay long-term; it feels like a hispanic/asian neighborhood that has a few white people mixed in. Mission District always had a white population in its western part and has become hip it's not really an affordable alternative, a certain type of San Francisco transplant seeks it out on purpose
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:41 PM
 
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Bridgeport is not like the Mission. Although Bridgeport has seen young urban transplants/hipsters, etc. its really the only neighborhood that close to the loop that still has that white working class vibe.

Mission in SF Chicago counterpart would likely be Wicker Park, maybe Logan Square, maybe even Pilsen.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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Sunset Park's white population is small, mostly younger whites looking for cheaper rent who tend not to stay long-term; it feels like a hispanic/asian neighborhood that has a few white people mixed in. Mission District always had a white population in its western part and has become hip it's not really an affordable alternative, a certain type of San Francisco transplant seeks it out on purpose
That's changed a lot more in the last several years because Sunset Park has decent schools and the neighborhoods just up above closer to Manhattan have gotten exorbitantly expensive.

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Bridgeport is not like the Mission. Although Bridgeport has seen young urban transplants/hipsters, etc. its really the only neighborhood that close to the loop that still has that white working class vibe.

Mission in SF Chicago counterpart would likely be Wicker Park, maybe Logan Square, maybe even Pilsen.
Logan Square is probably the closer analogue of the ones you've listed, but not that close. Those neighborhoods you listed don't have the growth of Asian (mostly Chinese descent) population that Bridgeport and the Mission have. Also, I like the park with a view connection. Maybe a bit too much so.

I get that there are differences among them and nothing's going to be spot on.

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Old 10-19-2016, 12:12 AM
 
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Interesting thread, I wish I could have been to all 3 to compare.

I've only been to Sunset Park and I would totally live there.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:20 PM
 
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Here's another one: analogues of the "downtowns" of Manhattan.

Financial District in Manhattan
| downtown Boston

The two both have narrow and often winding streets that are lined with skyscrapers and historic buildings and with small parks that break it up. They both also have a strong interplay with their respective harbors with several wharves, waterside parks, and also runs ferry services. They both also have some of the longest and earliest European settlement histories of anywhere in the US.

Midtown Manhattan | the Loop in Chicago

Massive skyscrapers home to many organizations and corporate headquarters set in a rectangular grid with a major known park abutting that. There are also major performance and arts venues parts of this and have also increasingly become residential and also have a large number of hotels.

That region between (and somewhat overlapping) that Financial District downtown Manhattan and Midtown Manhattan | Center City Philadelphia

These are areas made up of often a mix of smaller streets and larger avenues that are in a somewhat regular patterns. The streets in this area are a broad mix of historic and modern and of three-to-five story historic buildings, historic mid-rise buildings, and taller skyscrapers in parts. These are both a much greater mix of smaller local shops with corporate offices and residences of all kinds.

Basically, these parts of Manhattan are a bit like having pumped up versions of these downtowns each abutting and overlapping the other.
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Old 10-20-2016, 07:39 AM
 
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Mission in SF Chicago counterpart would likely be Wicker Park, maybe Logan Square, maybe even Pilsen.


Yeah, I tend to think the Mission is a little too hipster/gentrified at this point to match up with the other two. Doesn't Mark Zuckerberg have a house there? Seems a little more analagous to Williamsburg/WickerPark/LES than the other two wich still seem to be a little more "off the beaten path" for the toursit/hipster yuppie crowds.


Maybe somewhere a little further out or over in Oakland like Fruitville would be a closer analogy. Outside these cities, I could also see East Boston being a little like Sunset Park/Bridgeport.
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Old 10-21-2016, 01:39 AM
 
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Yeah, I tend to think the Mission is a little too hipster/gentrified at this point to match up with the other two. Doesn't Mark Zuckerberg have a house there? Seems a little more analagous to Williamsburg/WickerPark/LES than the other two wich still seem to be a little more "off the beaten path" for the toursit/hipster yuppie crowds.


Maybe somewhere a little further out or over in Oakland like Fruitville would be a closer analogy. Outside these cities, I could also see East Boston being a little like Sunset Park/Bridgeport.
Are you familiar with Bushwick by any chance? That's the hottest hipster neighborhood in New York right now in my opinion, and I would say it's "off the beaten path" for tourists.
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Are you familiar with Bushwick by any chance? That's the hottest hipster neighborhood in New York right now in my opinion, and I would say it's "off the beaten path" for tourists.
It was off the beaten path, but now you see tourists pretty often and hear a pretty good smattering of French, German and Japanese on the streets.

It's still pretty ugly, but now it's fancy ugly.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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I think throwing in Westlake in Los Angeles also makes sense, though maybe Koreatown is more analogous. Koreatown is named after all the Korean businesses, but the area actually has more hispanic residents than asian.
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