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If you aren't familiar with urban areas search "us wiki urban areas". These figures are based off the 2010 census. Let me know if you disagree or think of any other ones. They all have to be served by one labor market (i.e. commutable) in addition to connected by sufficient population density. So perhaps 1, 2, 3 are a stretch... maybe they all are a stretch. The surviving urban area name is on the left (don't get offended, many of them would have to be hyphenated for example DC-Baltimore).
Some suggestions:
1. Los Angeles, Riverside-San Bernadino, Mission Viejo/San Clemente, Santa Clarita, Thousand Oaks, Oxnard ~15,508k
2. Washington, DC and Baltimore ~6,790k
3. San Francisco and San Jose ~4,945k
4. Charlotte, Gastonia, Concord, and Rock Hill ~1,738k
5. Raleigh and Durham ~1,232k
6. Akron and Canton ~848k
7. Greenville and Spartanburg ~580k
8. Greensboro and Highpoint ~478k
9. Dallas and McKinney ~5,293k
10. Orlando and Kissimmee ~1,824k
11. Phoenix and Avondale-Goodyear ~3,826k
12. Denver and Boulder ~2,489k
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I don't think urban areas get combined. For instance, the urban areas of Charlotte and Concord are contiguous but are still separate.
Yes, but I'm saying, predict or support which ones do you think will combine by 2020. Which ones are most likely. Some of these should have been considered combined in the 2010 census.
Yes, but I'm saying, predict or support which ones do you think will combine by 2020. Which ones are most likely. Some of these should have been considered combined in the 2010 census.
I'm saying that as of now, the criteria doesn't allow for urban areas to be combined if I'm not mistaken. Are you asking which UAs would be combined if the criteria were to change?
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I'm saying that as of now, the criteria doesn't allow for urban areas to be combined if I'm not mistaken. Are you asking which UAs would be combined if the criteria were to change?
I'm saying based on urban growth and population change from 2010-2020, which urban areas are most likely to combine as of 2020, no change in the criteria.
I'm saying based on urban growth and population change from 2010-2020, which urban areas are most likely to combine as of 2020, no change in the criteria.
But that's what I'm saying: I don't think UAs get combined. I may be mistaken on that point but that's been my understanding.
Urban areas continue to grow as long as they meet the criteria for being an urban area. It has something to do with population density of contiguous Census tracts.
As for one on the list, it's just a matter of time before Raleigh's and Durham's combine. Raleigh's UA is already estimated over 1.1 million on its own and it's already growing into Durham's MSA. Durham's UA is also growing but not as fast. In any case, the reason they probably aren't already one UA is the collection of barriers that has thus far prevented contiguous development of residents. This "wall", if you will, is primarily Research Triangle Park. Nearby is RDU International. Throw in reservoirs to the NE and SW and flight paths over the same area and you have the recipe that delayed development in those areas between the two cities until more desirable locations were developed first. However, that's been changing over the last decade or two and the two UAs are quickly closing the gap. The western side of Cary is inching closer and closer to the southern side of Durham and the NW side of Raleigh & the SE side Durham continue the march toward each other. It's inevitable that they'll be one UA sooner rather than later. If it happens by 2020, I suspect that the population of the UA would be nearer 1.5/1.6 million rather than 1.232M. Raleigh's alone will be near 1.232M if they stay separate.
But that's what I'm saying: I don't think UAs get combined. I may be mistaken on that point but that's been my understanding.
I'm following your back and forth on this topic and I am curious why you think that they can't be combined in the future. It just doesn't make sense for a stake to be put in the ground at a single point in time and then say that it doesn't change or get redefined in the future. The Census and Office of Management and Budget have to re-look at the big picture every ten years following the official decennial Census and I'd think that all possibilities would be on the table.
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