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Old 11-02-2016, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I have seen a huge increase in California plates here in Phoenix since when I first lived here a few years ago.

Las Vegas is literally a sea of California plates.

It seems like Texas has a huge influx of Californians, but then again it seems like there are more then a few companies that relocate from California to Texas.

I was looking at some statistics from the IRS migration data and it seems as though there is a huge rather influx of Southern California lower-middle to middle-class families based on number of deduction and income of tax returns to Phoenix and Las Vegas.

California has gotten so expensive that even San Bernadino and Riverside Counties are pricing people out to Phoenix and Las Vegas which tends to most tax deductions per tax return and lowest incomes.

I noticed that many Bay Area migration goes to Portland and Seattle with less deductions, more singles or dual income no kids households and higher-income outmigration to Portland and Seattle.
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Old 11-03-2016, 01:07 AM
 
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Isn't there already a fairly major exodus taking place? Californians are leaving California in droves. They're just being offset by newcomers, immigrants, and birth rates.
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Old 11-03-2016, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Terramaria
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This is the consequences of reaching the carrying capacity based on living a relatively comfortable lifestyle, as the "ExCals" don't want to live in a shoebox-style home just to struggle to make a living. More people are discovering the advantages of these "more bang for your buck" opportunities, and you could also include other cities like Denver, Salt Lake City, Boise, and even Southeast cities like Nashville, Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa, and Florida. The NYC area also has similar issues with outward migration due to high cost of living.
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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This is the consequences of reaching the carrying capacity based on living a relatively comfortable lifestyle, as the "ExCals" don't want to live in a shoebox-style home just to struggle to make a living. More people are discovering the advantages of these "more bang for your buck" opportunities, and you could also include other cities like Denver, Salt Lake City, Boise, and even Southeast cities like Nashville, Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa, and Florida. The NYC area also has similar issues with outward migration due to high cost of living.
Yup. People are leaving cali in droves and moving down south to cities like Denver, Austin, Nashville, Tampa, and Atlanta.

Is COL the only reason people are leaving? The state is beautiful
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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I hope it reaches a point where I can afford to live there.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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People have been moving out of California by the hundreds of thousands for years now, but they're being replaced, mostly by Hispanic immigrants from Mexico and Latin America.
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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Yup. People are leaving cali in droves and moving down south to cities like Denver, Austin, Nashville, Tampa, and Atlanta.

Is COL the only reason people are leaving? The state is beautiful
The state is very beautiful but its also a very poorly run state, the city where I lived in california is now a land of rich and tons of have nots and a really declining middle class. Illegal immigration, crime, cost of housing, some of the highest tax rates yet really poor public schools, highest state sales tax rate in the nation by far ,taxes on gasoline, food, water, tags, etc .

To pay for some of the most generous welfare benefits out there so enormous numbers of poor will stay in California but I think its the housing supply or lack of it and high costs that is the real reason for the migration

With the immigration and mexicanization of California and the demographic changes I dont see republicans ever having much of chance in the state to change things but a trump presidency certainly would change the demographics if he follows through with his plan to deport illegal aliens. It would change the demographic outlook for sure in California and Texas as well. The problem will be in the agriculture industry if trump succeeds with deporting illegals, America depends on California agriculture
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and wherever planes fly
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California is a sad sad story. But if you have the money to live there it is hands down the most geographically rich state. and the climate in perfect for many especially So Cal.
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Old 11-03-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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This isn't really news. Been this way since the 1970s? The loss is largely amongst white and black Americans who are replaced by Hispanic and Asian migrants and natural increases.
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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People have been moving out of California by the hundreds of thousands for years now, but they're being replaced, mostly by Hispanic immigrants from Mexico and Latin America.
That's more the angry white guy theory than reality.

China surpasses Mexico in sending immigrants to California | The Sacramento Bee
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