U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-22-2016, 08:05 AM
 
1,309 posts, read 1,232,162 times
Reputation: 1450

Advertisements

Raleigh,Durham, Chapel Hill

Has jobs, it doesn't get a lot of credit for it, but the triangle area really does have nice scenery, plenty of parks and lakes, and near by rivers(well not plenty of rivers but the neuse is right there 13 miles from downtown Raleigh, and the Haw has access points right on the pittsboro/chapel hill border, and the eno flows right in Durham). Growth not just people moving here including several people with your exact same story, but in amenities, music options, events, food options, etc, In and around the area. Low crime, good schools(like colleges(in case you feel like getting more degrees for what ever reason cause you probably not thinking about kids and what schools are good for them right now). Not a substitute for the beach, but falls lake and jordan lake are both large area lakes and getting to the real beach is a 2 hour drive, Mountains is like 3. Most of the people are friendly.

Public transit sucks right now and people's moving patterns don't help the traffic issues(get a job in Downtown Raleigh, or RTP and decide to move to Holly Springs or Fuquay, half the time these people aren't even saving money to live in a place where there commute is way longer and most of the newer houses(where they are moving into, are just as high) but yeah transportation is con but in general its a nice place that is growing and getting better.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-25-2016, 10:39 AM
 
Location: I live in reality.
1,045 posts, read 959,241 times
Reputation: 1835
Quote:
Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag View Post
Take Houston, Atlanta, Dallas, and Miami as the general best cities to live in the South.

Shopping: All have great shopping with Houston and Dallas getting more flagship stores, but Miami and Atlanta not far behind

Quality of life: that's kind of a broad spectrum so I won't really go into that

Jobs: Probably all except Miami

Weather: I'd honestly put Atlanta as the winner here. Houston and Miami get hurricanes. Atlanta is the least humid and warm, but still warm enough.

Things to do in surrounding area: If you mean away from the city, Id have to say all except Atlanta. Miami is the winner and has the keys nearby as well as the closest to Orlando and all their theme parks. Houston nearby has San Antonio's theme parks (not Orlando but a lower caliber version), casino gambling in Lake Charles area, Austin fairly nearby as well.

Houston is by far the most culturally diverse city, so that gives it the international feel and food, etc. Dallas and Atlanta are known for being clean and organized, etc. Miami has beautiful beaches and is the Latin America and Caribbean hub.
Having lived in all for and now Charlotte, NC....I will just say...GRIDLOCK....GRIDLOCK....GRIDLOCK...GRIDLOCK AND GRIDLOCK....AND Charlotte has waited waaay too long to do much about it. You'll be paying HIGE taxes and added taxes to live in the 'urban New South" where a 2 BR apt is $2000./month and a starter track McMansion starts at $250K. You can have my spot here in 2 more years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-25-2016, 10:49 AM
 
242 posts, read 162,182 times
Reputation: 118
Houston.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2016, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
1,197 posts, read 3,718,938 times
Reputation: 585
It's a stretch to call Dallas a "Southern City", and flat out incorrect to group Austin or San Antonio in the "South". Those are culturally Southwestern cities and very different from places like Birmingham, Jacksonville or Atlanta.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2016, 05:03 PM
 
182 posts, read 143,624 times
Reputation: 179
Quote:
Originally Posted by jread View Post
It's a stretch to call Dallas a "Southern City", and flat out incorrect to group Austin or San Antonio in the "South". Those are culturally Southwestern cities and very different from places like Birmingham, Jacksonville or Atlanta.
How is Dallas not southern? It's similar to Atlanta. Austin reminds me of Nashville with a twist.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2016, 06:08 PM
_OT
 
Location: Miami
2,144 posts, read 1,520,550 times
Reputation: 1848
Quote:
Originally Posted by jread View Post
It's a stretch to call Dallas a "Southern City", and flat out incorrect to group Austin or San Antonio in the "South". Those are culturally Southwestern cities and very different from places like Birmingham, Jacksonville or Atlanta.
Austin is definitely not South Western, MAYBE San Antonio, but I doubt the Southwest claims San Antonio. Dallas is a Southern city (Actually being more southern than Atlanta based on location), but it doesn't compare to other Southern cities like Atlanta, Birmingham or Jacksonville. Dallas is more compatible with Oklahoma City, and that particular Southern Plains Region; similar to How Houston compares more to the Gulf Coast Region and Atlanta to the Piedmont.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2016, 06:57 PM
 
3,599 posts, read 1,527,009 times
Reputation: 3028
In no particular order

Larger:
Charlotte
Atlanta
Nashville
Dallas
Houston

Medium/Small:
Charleston, SC
Knoxville, TN
Lexington, KY
Charlottesville, VA
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2016, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
1,197 posts, read 3,718,938 times
Reputation: 585
Quote:
Originally Posted by sackin12 View Post
How is Dallas not southern? It's similar to Atlanta. Austin reminds me of Nashville with a twist.
Dallas is not similar to Atlanta at all. If anything, I'd agree with the post below that it fits more into the Southern Plains region with Oklahoma City. But the area has a strong western history with cattle and cowboys, which is not a Southeastern thing at all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by _OT View Post
Austin is definitely not South Western, MAYBE San Antonio, but I doubt the Southwest claims San Antonio. Dallas is a Southern city (Actually being more southern than Atlanta based on location), but it doesn't compare to other Southern cities like Atlanta, Birmingham or Jacksonville. Dallas is more compatible with Oklahoma City, and that particular Southern Plains Region; similar to How Houston compares more to the Gulf Coast Region and Atlanta to the Piedmont.
If San Antonio is possibly Southwestern, then I don't see how Austin definitely isn't when they're so close together. I consider Austin and San Antonio to be border cities, geographically, culturally and even in climate since they're in the sub-tropical/semi-arid transition zone. Culturally, they are nothing like Southern cities. I don't see anything at all similar between Nashville and Austin except for the music. There is no predominating accent in either city, and definitely not Southern accents... just generic American. If they're not Southwestern, then they are possibly just "Texas" cities, which still has a heavy blend of Mexican and Western influence. I will never agree with anyone that Austin or San Antonio are part of "The South" as they have an entirely different history and are culturally tied too closely to Mexico and the West.

The true "South" ends in the East Texas piney woods, and even there it's not quite the same. I grew up on the TX/LA border and while I thought that area was pretty Southern, when I visited states like Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia I might as well have been in a different world. It was even hard to understand people in the rural areas of those states because the accent was so different.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2016, 09:50 AM
_OT
 
Location: Miami
2,144 posts, read 1,520,550 times
Reputation: 1848
Quote:
Originally Posted by jread View Post
Dallas is not similar to Atlanta at all. If anything, I'd agree with the post below that it fits more into the Southern Plains region with Oklahoma City. But the area has a strong western history with cattle and cowboys, which is not a Southeastern thing at all.



If San Antonio is possibly Southwestern, then I don't see how Austin definitely isn't when they're so close together. I consider Austin and San Antonio to be border cities, geographically, culturally and even in climate since they're in the sub-tropical/semi-arid transition zone. Culturally, they are nothing like Southern cities. I don't see anything at all similar between Nashville and Austin except for the music. There is no predominating accent in either city, and definitely not Southern accents... just generic American. If they're not Southwestern, then they are possibly just "Texas" cities, which still has a heavy blend of Mexican and Western influence. I will never agree with anyone that Austin or San Antonio are part of "The South" as they have an entirely different history and are culturally tied too closely to Mexico and the West.

The true "South" ends in the East Texas piney woods, and even there it's not quite the same. I grew up on the TX/LA border and while I thought that area was pretty Southern, when I visited states like Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia I might as well have been in a different world. It was even hard to understand people in the rural areas of those states because the accent was so different.
I said maybe with San Antonio because some people think it's Southwestern off the strength of the city's name alone. Austin and San Antonio are both just Texas cities with MINOR Southwestern influences, not Californian. Both Austin and San Antonio can get very green, I know Austin has Hill Country nearby that can get a bit green, not on the level of the Appalachian, but it gets there.

Regarding culture though, I think technically speaking you can't really place all of these cities in the same box. Geography wise Houston and East Texas compares more to the Gulf Coast, Dallas to the Plains Region, Atlanta to the Piedmont/Upland South and etc. Or on appearance where Austin and San Antonio can look more Southern than Birmingham, Louisville, and Richmond based on their older urban fabric or housing architecture. Or how could I forget Miami, a place that has strong Latin/Caribbean influences.

But as for Texas, I have a few family members in the DFW region that I often visit, and I've been to Austin a few times and I'll admit that it's definitely different from what I usually experience in Southern cities like Atlanta, Birmingham, Nashville, Richmond, or even Miami. The Cattle and Cowboys presence definitely felt a bit strong in Fort Worth, I mean I've seen horses and cows before, but not so close to fully populated communities like they were in Fort Worth. Can't really speak too much about Austin outside of the core areas, but as for DFW, traveling within the metro area definitely feels a bit divergent from Atlanta or Miami. The Freeway System felt more intense (especially driving down I-635), a bit more sprawled, and from what I noticed there were a lot of Argon/Fluorescent lighting, especially when driving down freeways and passing by the Restaurant road signs on my way to North East Mall.

Although I did feel that same experience traveling through the Gulf near Mississippi, West Louisiana and East Texas into Houston. So honestly I think it depends on the area that the city is in itself; Is Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio comparable to Atlanta, Charlotte, and Nashville? yes, regarding Sunbelt qualities, but based on culture and geography there's not any comparable attributes there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-01-2016, 09:54 AM
 
29,930 posts, read 27,365,450 times
Reputation: 18458
Quote:
Originally Posted by jread View Post
I will never agree with anyone that Austin or San Antonio are part of "The South" as they have an entirely different history and are culturally tied too closely to Mexico and the West.
They don't have entirely different histories than the South; slavery and Jim Crow were present in Austin and San Antonio, just like in other Southern locales. Places can be part of the South and still have aspects of their history and culture that are unique, like New Orleans. It's so interesting how the South is the only region of the country where it is expected that all of its cities be monolithic for inclusion in the region.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top