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View Poll Results: Which is better?
Boston 17 80.95%
Hudson county 4 19.05%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-21-2016, 06:51 PM
 
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Hudson county and Boston are very similar to each other in population, density, and area. They both have good extensive transport that makes it possible for someone to live in the city or county without a car. They're both located on the ocean and both have decent skylines. Also for this comparison please keep it to Boston proper vs Hudson county and not Boston metro vs New York city.

Here are some stats:
Boston:
Area- 48.42 sq mi
Population- 667,137
Density- 13,841/sq mi

Hudson county:
Area- 46.19 sq mi
Population- 674,836
Density- 14,610/sq mi

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Which is more vibrant and energetic-
Which do you prefer and why?
Your more than welcome to add any criteria if you wish.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:52 PM
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Location: Boston
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Soooo....Jersey City vs Boston? Or Hudson County vs Suffolk County? Maybe I'm being pedantic, but comparing a County to a city just seems weird to me.
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Old 11-22-2016, 03:50 AM
 
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Soooo....Jersey City vs Boston? Or Hudson County vs Suffolk County? Maybe I'm being pedantic, but comparing a County to a city just seems weird to me.
I think it's a great comparison. They're both roughly the same size and density. I look forward to reading people's responses.

(Although I think the mods should move this thread to city vs city)
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Old 11-22-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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It's actually a pretty silly comparison. You simply can't discount the impact that NYC has on Hudson County. It would be like comparing, say, Aurora Colorado to Tampa because they're similar in size. One is the center of it's metro, the other benefits from proximity to the biggest city in the region.
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Old 11-22-2016, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Downtown & Brooklyn!
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It's actually a pretty silly comparison. You simply can't discount the impact that NYC has on Hudson County. It would be like comparing, say, Aurora Colorado to Tampa because they're similar in size. One is the center of it's metro, the other benefits from proximity to the biggest city in the region.
Yeah, Hudson county is really just NYC suburbs/exurbs
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:20 AM
 
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Yeah, Hudson county is really just NYC suburbs/exurbs
I'd argue this is a VERY recent development. Most of Hudson county consisted of true satellite cities that existed parallel to NYC with some spillover, but they weren't true suburbs...not in the sense that Northern Virginia was a DC suburb. It's not where you moved when you had kids and needed more room and/or better schools, or when you just couldn't afford the city anymore. Their status as NYC "suburbs" is really a 21st century phenomenon.
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I'd argue this is a VERY recent development. Most of Hudson county consisted of true satellite cities that existed parallel to NYC with some spillover, but they weren't true suburbs...not in the sense that Northern Virginia was a DC suburb. It's not where you moved when you had kids and needed more room and/or better schools, or when you just couldn't afford the city anymore. Their status as NYC "suburbs" is really a 21st century phenomenon.
I thought the gentrification of Hudson County was basically limited to just Hoboken and the downtown portions of Jersey City? Plus of course the rich areas right along the water which were always nice. The rest of the county is still mostly a mixture of working-class white ethnic areas and Latino neighborhoods, minus the black and Asian parts of Jersey City.

Come to think of it, in a weird way Jersey City has always reminded me of Oakland California. Totally different in terms of built form and safety (Jersey City has really low crime rates these days) but they're both medium-sized cities directly across the water from more famous cities. They both have a strong industrial past. They're both hyper diverse, with roughly equal numbers of blacks, whites, Latinos, and Asians. And both are experiencing gentrification in their core neighborhoods.
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:42 AM
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Location: Boston
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It's actually a pretty silly comparison. You simply can't discount the impact that NYC has on Hudson County. It would be like comparing, say, Aurora Colorado to Tampa because they're similar in size. One is the center of it's metro, the other benefits from proximity to the biggest city in the region.
It's also just like comparing Denver or San Francisco to Hudson County, NJ. I mean I'm sure that Jersey City, Hoboken, and Weehawken are lovely places, but I just feel that there's a bit of a disconnect between the offerings of those cities and Boston.

I'd love to hear someone argue against me; for all I know Jersey City is the most happening place in the NYC area. It's been a few years since I was last down there.

Here are pictures of the two places:

Boston:

Reflection of the Sunset by Steve Tocci, on Flickr

Hudson County:

View of Jersey City from Battery Park by William A. Garcia, on Flickr
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Old 11-24-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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It's actually a pretty silly comparison. You simply can't discount the impact that NYC has on Hudson County. It would be like comparing, say, Aurora Colorado to Tampa because they're similar in size. One is the center of it's metro, the other benefits from proximity to the biggest city in the region.
I disagree. I think if we were trying to compare Nassau or Westchester counties, you might be right. I feel like if NYC disappeared off the face of the earth, Hudson County would thrive.
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Old 11-24-2016, 05:58 PM
 
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Sometimes I wonder how some people got all their reputation points, and then I remind myself that Trump was also elected President.
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