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Old 11-29-2016, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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I'm sure a lot have a dislike for soccer, but I consider the MLS part of the major league pro league scene.
You bring up a good point. I believe the MLS is very close to the NHL in audience, both live and via media. When I put this list together, it wasn't. Also it should be noted that MLS is very strong in several markets, but no so much in the rest. Can it grow? Perhaps...
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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I wonder if the Tidewater area could ever support a pro team.
I think so, but I wonder about which league would be a good fit there. I'm thinking maybe MLB.
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Old 11-30-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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You bring up a good point. I believe the MLS is very close to the NHL in audience, both live and via media. When I put this list together, it wasn't. Also it should be noted that MLS is very strong in several markets, but no so much in the rest. Can it grow? Perhaps...
Don't look at national Broadcasts, NESN MSG, CSN etc. have very high ratings for regionally broadcast games.
The NHL had ~4B dollars in Revenue last year, the MLS has .5B in revenue.
The NHL is far an away above the MLS, especially in markets where the both exists.
The Revs can't compete with the Bruins, the Fire can't compete with the Blackhawks, The Habs blow away the Impact, and it isn't even close.
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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True, but there are strong MLS markets. Seattle, Los Angeles, Portland. Your examples are near the bottom. However, my original post did not include MLS for a reason.

This article is somewhat old, but I don't think much has changed.

Ranking MLS' most popular teams; New research reveals fascinating results - World Soccer Talk
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Old 11-30-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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True, but there are strong MLS markets. Seattle, Los Angeles, Portland. Your examples are near the bottom. However, my original post did not include MLS for a reason.

This article is somewhat old, but I don't think much has changed.

Ranking MLS' most popular teams; New research reveals fascinating results - World Soccer Talk
Considering the NHL has 8x the revenue, I would say that on balance, the NHL is much more popular then the MLS.
Yes, maybe in the Pac NW the MLS is more popular, but in the Upper Midwest, the Northeast, and even places like Dallas, the NHL is much more successful than the MLS.
An example is according for Forbes, the Seattle Sounders are the most valuable MLS Franchise, at $275M, the NY Rangers are worth 1.4B.

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Old 11-30-2016, 07:54 PM
 
Location: VB
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I wonder if the Tidewater area could ever support a pro team.
Too politically fractured (as a result of how cities are organized in VA) and too transient to get a team here. I'd love to be proven wrong.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Norfolk (ODU)
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Too politically fractured (as a result of how cities are organized in VA) and too transient to get a team here. I'd love to be proven wrong.
Once we get a venue large enough to hold a crowd of more than 20,000 we definitely could support a pro sports team here in the Tidewater region.
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Old 11-30-2016, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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MLB is probably the hardest sport for smaller pro markets to support I think the easiest for small markets are NBA and NHL. Of those two I think NBA is probably a better fit for Norfolk/Va Bch. I'd love to see an NFL team there, but I know that's a big stretch.
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Old 11-30-2016, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Living in Baton Rouge, having LSU football is like having a NFL team with all the media attention and big games LSU baseball is just as great and attracts media attention. Last season having Ben Simmons as the #1 pick was pretty cool too. LSU basketball is nothing compared to the dominant programs so it was different having lots of attention for those games. Then we have the Saints and Pelicans just an hour away.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:51 AM
 
Location: VB
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Once we get a venue large enough to hold a crowd of more than 20,000 we definitely could support a pro sports team here in the Tidewater region.
The proposed arena in Virginia Beach (the future of which is in doubt after the City Council rejected the developer's financing proposal in October) would seat only 18,000.
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