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Old 12-05-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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zagat.com's 26 Hottest Food Cities 2016
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3. Denver, CO
7. Asheville, NC
9. Charlotte, NC
11. Charleston, SC
12. Savannah, GA
13. Detroit, MI
14. Birmingham, AL
15. Indianapolis, IN
16. Nashville, TN
18. Austin, TX
19. Raleigh, NC
24. Dallas, TX
25. Providence, RI
LOL!!
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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As a general notice of food lists, it seems like they are trying to get too many jaws to drop. Its like they are trying to shock but putting cities like Detroit (no offense to them) ahead of NYC. I think its one think if we have they advertise the list as cities that are hidden food gems or up and coming food cities, but instead they always brand it as a "best food cities" list.

Personally, I immediately disregard the lists if...

1) NYC isnt the top city on the list
2) Chicago, LA, and the Bay Area arent part of the top four.
3) There is no clear methodology.
4) If there is no breakdown between what makes a food city (regional cuisine, fine dining, innovation, and ethnic variety).

Lets face it, in regards to my fourth point, most cities have strong and weak points to their cuisine. Take New Orleans. Its probably got the single best regional cuisine in the US, but it falls flat on ethnic dining. Its not that its not there, but it definitely doesn't stand out. Thats fine, but mosts foodie lists dont take this into consideration. To me, a foodie hot spot needs to encompass ALL of those categories, not just perfect one or two.

Here in Houston, given all the categories, it should rank in the 5-8 spot for best all around food cities alongside cities like Philadelphia and Boston. But when you look at T&L or Zagat, you'd never know it. Texas isnt popular with people across the US. Its kind of assumed to be all the same.

Popularity polls with no methodology mean nothing.
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:47 PM
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Location: Miami
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LOL!!
Birmingham, Nashville, and Savannah are great Food Cities, you're sleeping.
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:45 AM
 
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LOL!!
I'm guessing you don't much about foodie hotspots.

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Birmingham, Nashville, and Savannah are great Food Cities, you're sleeping.
As is Charleston, which routinely makes lists like these and has for several years.
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Charlotte over Chicago. That's all I needed to see to discredit this list entirely.
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Old 12-06-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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Charlotte over Chicago. That's all I needed to see to discredit this list entirely.
It's essentially a most improved list. Charlotte has a lot more room for improvement in this area than Chicago (a long-established city for food), so it makes perfect sense.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:29 AM
 
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DC has really come up in the food rankings. I can attest to that.

But I don't understand how New York can be so far below cities like Asheville, Charlotte and Detroit. That doesn't make any sense.

I think it's because New York is pretty saturated right now. You get what you expect in NYC. I haven't been to Asheville or Charlotte but in Detroit, there's new restaurants popping up every week and chefs from around the country are coming here in force.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Baltimore MD/Durham NC
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Yeah, lots of posters are ignoring what this list is about. It is a list of how the cities food scenes have changed in the past year. Showing what cities are making the biggest recent changes and improvements to their food scene.

It is not a list of best food scenes, getting upset that places like New York aren't ranked at the top is missing the point.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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As a general notice of food lists, it seems like they are trying to get too many jaws to drop. Its like they are trying to shock but putting cities like Detroit (no offense to them) ahead of NYC. I think its one think if we have they advertise the list as cities that are hidden food gems or up and coming food cities, but instead they always brand it as a "best food cities" list.

Personally, I immediately disregard the lists if...

1) NYC isnt the top city on the list
2) Chicago, LA, and the Bay Area arent part of the top four.
3) There is no clear methodology.
4) If there is no breakdown between what makes a food city (regional cuisine, fine dining, innovation, and ethnic variety).

Lets face it, in regards to my fourth point, most cities have strong and weak points to their cuisine. Take New Orleans. Its probably got the single best regional cuisine in the US, but it falls flat on ethnic dining. Its not that its not there, but it definitely doesn't stand out. Thats fine, but mosts foodie lists dont take this into consideration. To me, a foodie hot spot needs to encompass ALL of those categories, not just perfect one or two.

Here in Houston, given all the categories, it should rank in the 5-8 spot for best all around food cities alongside cities like Philadelphia and Boston. But when you look at T&L or Zagat, you'd never know it. Texas isnt popular with people across the US. Its kind of assumed to be all the same.

Popularity polls with no methodology mean nothing.
So... basically what you're saying is that you have your opinion and if something doesn't agree with your predetermined opinion, it's wrong. Hmm, well, I see you've learned to deal with cognitive dissonance, like a pro.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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Yeah, lots of posters are ignoring what this list is about. It is a list of how the cities food scenes have changed in the past year. Showing what cities are making the biggest recent changes and improvements to their food scene.

It is not a list of best food scenes, getting upset that places like New York aren't ranked at the top is missing the point.
A lot of people are ignoring that the list is from zagat, which is almost as bad as yelp.
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