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Old 12-05-2016, 07:06 PM
 
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The North End of Boston is essentially entirely made up of that style of housing and several other neighborhoods like Chinatown, the Theatre District, Leather District, Fenway and parts of Allston near Comm Ave all have areas that are almost entirely apartment buildings. The more central areas have mostly 4-7 story buildings and the less centrally located have mostly 3-5 story buildings.

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Old 12-05-2016, 07:26 PM
 
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I would say that Cincinnati has some of them as well, but not Chicago or Baltimore. Remember, the OP's examples of tenement style housing are attached skinny 5 plus story apartment buildings that often have retail at the bottom, and often fire escapes attached to the facade. Chicago is mostly tall and wide apartment buildings or detached apartment flat buildings.
I agree, I don't think Baltimore has any real tenement blocks. The closest you are going to get is something that has been converted into something like a real tenement, like this: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3037...2!8i6656?hl=en
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:33 PM
 
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The North End of Boston is essentially entirely made up of that style of housing and several other neighborhoods like Chinatown, the Theatre District, Leather District, Fenway and parts of Allston near Comm Ave all have areas that are almost entirely apartment buildings. The more central areas have mostly 4-7 story buildings and the less centrally located have mostly 3-5 story buildings.

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Are those really tenements or just older midrise apartments?
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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Are those really tenements or just older midrise apartments?
That's where you get into difficulty-- i.e., is there a clear difference between a tenement house and an apartment house? Obviously Park Avenue and Fifth Avenue have apartments and Mott Street has tenements but at the mid-price level is the difference as clear? I don't think so. In the Boston case, North End and the back of Beacon Hill have brick 4-story walkups that are clearly tenements (they were thick in the West End too but urban renewal wiped the slate clean there.) The Allston and Fenway buildings were built for middle class or lower middle class tenants. They have bigger rooms and better layouts but mostly no elevators. Even without elevators I wouldn't call them tenements because of the superior interior layouts as compared to narrow North End railroad flat-style tenements.

These brick mid-rise apartments are all over the streetcar suburbs-- Allston-Brighton, Brookline, Cambridge, Roxbury-Dorchester, Malden, Chelsea. But they were never as popular as the wooden three decker house which you see only in New England cities.

Note: CityLover's Leather District photo shows commercial buildings converted in recent years to residential use, like those in SoHo NYC. Not tenements.
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:41 AM
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Are those really tenements or just older midrise apartments?
A tenement is an older midrise apartment buildings that was resided in by the poor; it's a subjective distinction.
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Old 12-06-2016, 02:15 PM
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I thought he meant the architectural style.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:03 PM
 
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I thought he meant the architectural style.
You're right, basically older midrise buildings.
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Old 12-06-2016, 11:09 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I haven't really seen anywhere else in the US yet with midrise tenement apartments like you see in much of NYC.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7186...7i13312!8i6656

I think San Francisco might have some comparable neighborhoods but other than that I can't think of anything.
Thanks in part to the Great Fire, Chicago actively tried to not be like NYC in this regard. When NYC style tenements started appearing in Chicago, the city passed the 1902 tenement ordinance that essentially blocked them. The ordinance is why Chicago has so many courtyard apartment buildings. Two-flats were also extremely popular in the same time period.

A courtyard building:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9546...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Two-flats:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8524...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:03 AM
 
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Pittsburgh also has a gentrified version

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4432...8i6656!6m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4437...8i6656!6m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4436...8i6656!6m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4695...8i6656!6m1!1e1
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