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Old 12-11-2016, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I was just curious why some cities have plummeting home prices and apartment rents right outside of the city or with-in close proximity to the city, while metropolitan areas don't have as much of a price cliff.

Los Angeles is like that with the city and core suburbs being extremely expensive but 40 miles away in the Palmdale and Lancaster area it is extremely inexpensive. Home prices for example are similar to Des Moines or Omaha in the Antolope Valley area of Los Angeles County.

Seattle is like that also with a very, very expensive core city but Tacoma has studio apartments for 700 dollars a month and is a short commuter bus from Seattle.

Orange County is well over twice the median home price of adjacent Riverside County.

I have to say though in the case of Denver and Salt Lake City there really isn't much of a savings for a long distance outside of the metropolitan area. Rents are pretty similar all over a very large area in those two metropolitan areas.
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Old 12-11-2016, 02:51 PM
 
Location: 352
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Location. Living near the ocean isnt cheap and as you said, Palmdale is another 40 miles away. Riverside is landlocked.

Desirability. LA is what people see on TV and in movies. They want to live with the glitz and glam in that big city life. Palmdale is the opposite. Same with Riverside. Seattle gets all the rankings and hype, Tacoma does not. Seattle, LA, and OC also have better, more desirable jobs.

Demand. Because its deisrable, LA has a high demand right now. Palmdale does not. You can find a home and land much easier. Seattle is also in high demand.

Amenities. We already know all the things you can do in LA. What can you do in Palmdale other than go to the mall? (Seriously I'm asking). Seattle you have Pike Place, Space Needle, Seahawks, UW Huskies, etc. What's in Tacoma? OC has the beach and scenery, Riverside doesn't have beach.
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Old 12-11-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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40 miles is a pretty long distance when it comes to this kind of stuff.
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Old 12-11-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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An apartment isn't a home? Your wording is common but it's odd and obviously inaccurate. "House" is the descriptive term.

As for the price drop, it mostly comes down to desire.

The bigger question is why you're creating incessant threads about the same concept...why people like cities even though you don't.
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Old 12-12-2016, 03:59 PM
 
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The simple answer is supply and demand.

What makes Palmdale desirable apart from affordability and being 40 miles from L.A.? It seems like a hot, dusty desert town that has significant issues with crime, poverty and traffic (if you're going to work in LA) but not a lot of reasons why someone who could afford better would live there.

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Old 12-12-2016, 04:07 PM
 
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40 miles is a pretty long distance when it comes to this kind of stuff.

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Old 12-17-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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I was just curious why some cities have plummeting home prices and apartment rents right outside of the city or with-in close proximity to the city, while metropolitan areas don't have as much of a price cliff.

Los Angeles is like that with the city and core suburbs being extremely expensive but 40 miles away in the Palmdale and Lancaster area it is extremely inexpensive. Home prices for example are similar to Des Moines or Omaha in the Antolope Valley area of Los Angeles County.

Seattle is like that also with a very, very expensive core city but Tacoma has studio apartments for 700 dollars a month and is a short commuter bus from Seattle.

Orange County is well over twice the median home price of adjacent Riverside County.

I have to say though in the case of Denver and Salt Lake City there really isn't much of a savings for a long distance outside of the metropolitan area. Rents are pretty similar all over a very large area in those two metropolitan areas.
You get what you pay for.

40 miles is often 2-3 hours of commute time. Palmdale and Lancaster prices are low because it's a hellishly long commute.

Riverside County is huge, reaching all the way to the eastern border of California. Do you think this massive distance might be affecting prices? Also, it's largely desert, and it's a lot hotter on average than Orange County. Then there's commute time.

Ditto for Tacoma into Seattle. It's about 35 miles from Tacoma to downtown Seattle. If you manage to hit no traffic because you commute both directions at 2 am, it might only take you 45 minutes. More typical would be a frustrating 90 minutes, and that's if you're starting at the near side of Tacoma.
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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To be fair, express buses from the Tacoma Dome leave every four minutes and get there faster by HOV, plus there's commuter rail that's also faster than driving much of the time.
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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I was just curious why some cities have plummeting home prices and apartment rents right outside of the city or with-in close proximity to the city, while metropolitan areas don't have as much of a price cliff.

Los Angeles is like that with the city and core suburbs being extremely expensive but 40 miles away in the Palmdale and Lancaster area it is extremely inexpensive. Home prices for example are similar to Des Moines or Omaha in the Antolope Valley area of Los Angeles County.

Seattle is like that also with a very, very expensive core city but Tacoma has studio apartments for 700 dollars a month and is a short commuter bus from Seattle.

Orange County is well over twice the median home price of adjacent Riverside County.

I have to say though in the case of Denver and Salt Lake City there really isn't much of a savings for a long distance outside of the metropolitan area. Rents are pretty similar all over a very large area in those two metropolitan areas.
Palmdale: Average high, 97 degrees.
Los Angeles: Average high 84 degrees.
That and it's a 2 1/2 hour commute from Palmdale to Los Angeles.

Irvine: Average high, 90 degrees.
Riverside: Average high 96 degrees. Not huge but the extremes are, plus pollution.
Again, depending from where 1 1/2 to 2 hour commute or more to Irvine and worse to Los Angeles.
Most people who live in Orange work in Orange. Lots of firms I do work with have offices in both Los Angeles and Orange.

If you look, you can find studios for not much more than that in Seattle. Not downtown area and they'll be smaller but not micro studio size. Plenty of those (including utilities for 700) if you don't want to deal with a "short" hour bus ride.

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Old 12-19-2016, 10:58 PM
 
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I'm going to take it that the OP is just ignorant and he wasn't just trolling, but here is the answer:

-Palmdale/Antelope Valley is actually >60 miles to downtown LA, and minimum 2 hr commute each way to anywhere with a concentration of decent jobs.

-It's where people move when they get priced out of or can't find someone to accept their Section 8 voucher in South LA, so it has crime issues.

-Schools are terrible.

-Weather is bad compared to LA.

-In general, most of these same factors apply to Riverside County compared to Orange County, although there are some nice cities in Riverside County that are ok places to live.

The biggest factor for most people is the long commutes to any area with high paying jobs. I'm certainly not willing to spend 4hrs a day commuting, regardless of how cheap the houses are. The vast majority of good jobs in LA/OC are concentrated South of the San Gabriel Mountains and West of the Santa Ana Mountains, and as a result this is where homes are expensive. With limited mountain passes/freeways able to cross over these mountains, it creates choke points and congestion that make the commutes much longer than the distance would otherwise suggest. Try going on the 14 or the 91 during rush hour to see what I mean.

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