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Old 01-05-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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The only place growing in Georgia is the Atlanta metropolitan area and the outskirts of it (northern GA, mountain area).
Not true; coastal Georgia (particularly Savannah) is experiencing rapid growth, definitely more than north Georgia.

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Illinois suffers from the same issue of having only one major city with nothing else in the state to offer. South Carolina has multiple metros.
Metro Atlanta by itself is more populous than the entire state of SC (which does have multiple, but small, metros) and typically adds more people in a given year than SC, so it was a bit surprising to see SC's domestic migration numbers higher than GA's.
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Metro Atlanta by itself is more populous than the entire state of SC (which does have multiple, but small, metros) and typically adds more people in a given year than SC, so it was a bit surprising to see SC's domestic migration numbers higher than GA's.
Georgia is getting a large number of international migrants now, while South Carolina is near the bottom nationwide.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Metro Atlanta by itself is more populous than the entire state of SC (which does have multiple, but small, metros) and typically adds more people in a given year than SC, so it was a bit surprising to see SC's domestic migration numbers higher than GA's.
Metro Atlanta is also one of the most transient metros in the U.S., perhaps only second to DC. In SC metros, it's probably mostly retirees without the young professional turnstile you see in Atlanta.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:51 AM
 
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South Carolina is impressive. It seems to be all the rave these days with a lot of Floridians as well.
South Carolina is incredibly underrated.

I don't know what people from outside the region think of SC, but it is a great place.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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IIRC, South Carolina is the only southern state which is actually getting whiter rather than more diverse. I'm sure some of the domestic migrants are nonwhite, but a significantly lower proportion than the state's black population (27%-28%). The state also isn't, as I noted, getting any international migration worth speaking of.

This is also why unlike Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia, there's no evidence the state is edging to the left. Northern retiree transplants are probably a little less conservative than the average white South Carolinian, but not the median voter.

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Old 01-05-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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For the South, im surprised that South Carolina is gaining more people than Georgia and North Carolina, must be some kind of error. And Virginia losing people, damn shame such a beautiful state is losing numbers, kimda surprising as well.
It's not an error. All of SC's metros outpace all of Georgia and NC's other than Atlanta, Charlotte, and Raleigh. SC is growing very fast, almost too fast. Case in point, most of the interstate highway is still only 4 lanes. We're still playing catch up fast, even though this has been going on for a while now.

The thing is, NC is booming in Charlotte and Raleigh. Georgia is mainly Atlanta, but Savannah is growing as well. SC has Greenville, Columbia, Charleston, Myrtle Beach, and Hilton Head.

You also have fast Charlotte growth spilling into York and Lancaster Counties. York is the 2nd largest county in the Charlotte metro and Lancaster is the 2nd fastest growing. York is 3rd.

SC is basically a mesh of Texas and Florida. HHI and Myrtle Beach is bringing in truckloads of retirees, while Greenville, Columbia, Charleston, and York are bringing in more professionals and families. HHI/Bluffton and Myrtle are bringing families as well. SC is not surviving on retirees like many non-natives think. Even Myrtle Beach isn't.

Professionals is something SC has somewhat lacked more than others throughout history, but the business climate is changing. Charleston had the highest 4-year degree growth in the country a couple years ago, and more brain gain is evident throughout the state. Medical is a field the state really shines in that people don't notice.

Prices are rising fast though, and it's becoming a real problem. SC isn't "dirt cheap" like many outsiders believe. Just being on the Atlantic Coast should void that narrative.

I agree on Virginia though, I would definitely go back. NOVA is obviously expensive, but you get what you pay for, which is a great QOL.

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Metro Atlanta is also one of the most transient metros in the U.S., perhaps only second to DC.
Any data on this? Because I don't believe this to be the case. Atlanta has a HUGE base of natives. Or do you mean Atlanta city is transient because everyone moves to Marietta, Lawrenceville, and Kennesaw after having kids?

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Old 01-05-2017, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Any data on this? Because I don't believe this to be the case. Atlanta has a HUGE base of natives. Or do you mean Atlanta city is transient because everyone moves to Marietta, Lawrenceville, and Kennesaw after having kids?
No, I mean a lot of people leave the metro area altogether for other states. The Atlanta area, much like the DC area, sees a lot of population churn from year to year.
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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No, I mean a lot of people leave the metro area altogether for other states. The Atlanta area, much like the DC area, sees a lot of population churn from year to year.
But I'm asking do you have data or is that opinion, because I don't believe that to be the case. Not 2nd after DC. once you move to Atlanta, its easy to find yourself staying. New York, DC, and San Fran have obvious transient qualities. I don't see it with Atlanta.
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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The only place growing in Georgia is the Atlanta metropolitan area and the outskirts of it (northern GA, mountain area). Illinois suffers from the same issue of having only one major city with nothing else in the state to offer. South Carolina has multiple metros.
LOL what?! Cook County, IL is larger than the entire state of South Carolina. There's also a decent amount of life in the Quad Cities, Peoria, St. Louis, and college towns like Champaign-Urbana and Bloomington-Normal. Metro Atlanta is also larger than the entire state of South Carolina. What's your point here?
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:50 PM
 
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LOL what?! Cook County, IL is larger than the entire state of South Carolina. There's also a decent amount of life in the Quad Cities, Peoria, St. Louis, and college towns like Champaign-Urbana and Bloomington-Normal. Metro Atlanta is also larger than the entire state of South Carolina. What's your point here?
I think he was trying to say Illinois, like Georgia, has one dominating metro, while SC has 3 mid-size metros where none of them dominate the state, but rather all 3 add about the same influence.
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