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Old 01-09-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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My husband and I are currently living in Northern Arizona, which we cannot stand for various reasons, the most important being trying to get new clients for our web business and the next being overcrowding and overpricing. Although we would like to make it back out East someday, we will not have money for this for at least a few years so we are trying to keep the move out West - coast, mountain states, SW - doesn't really matter. The main thing we are looking for is an area where we can grow our small web development/design business. We already have clients and would like to keep the rent near the $1500-1700 range.

We highly dislike our current area for numerous factors - tourist traffic 24/7 everywhere (takes 2-3 hours to get home from the ski resort), lack of local businesses, overpriced for the value and amenities offered, expensive services (cheapest gym is 85 for the 2 of us compared to the $20 we paid in Boston) and an overall run down and depressing atmosphere with rude people. If anyone has any suggestions on a great place to move to continue our small business, considering the fact that we have to stay out West, that would be so helpful!!!

Here are a few other things we are looking for in a move

*No towns where a college makes up over 50% of the population.

*No towns where the culture is limited to endless breweries and craft beer festivals. We are not big drinkers.

*An airport. This is the biggest drawback to where we currently live. We would prefer a max drive of 40 min or so to a decent airport over the 2.5 hour drive we have now.

*Lots of local business as opposed to endless chains, along with local businesses that are actual friendly and appreciate local business as opposed to just caring about the tourists!

*Lots of outdoor recreational activities year round. We don't mind the snow, rain, etc. We hike, bike, play tennis, snowshoe, and ski throughout the year. Would like opportunities to use paved bike paths as opposed to the mountain biking available here. Also would love to be able to sign up for a $10 gym again as opposed to paying $45 a month here! What a waste as we do much of our cardio outside and prefer and indoor gym just for weights!

*Great road trips nearby. We travel frequently and are not content with sitting around the house all the time. Need access to new and exciting places throughout the year.

*Things to do at night. One of the major cons with N Arizona is a lack of things to do besides hiking. While we absolutely love to hike, it does get old to do a hike in the morning and come back to have TV as the sole entertainment options (minus drinking at the bars).

*More culture and diversity. Museums, zoos, ethnic restaurants, events, holiday attractions, unique local history/sights, etc.

*Preferably not a super high altitude environment like we are living in now (7000 feet). Have been reading a lot about the negative effects.

*Would prefer 4 seasons, but could do without if enough other desirable amenities are present.

*Rent around $1500-1700 for 2 bedroom although we could go a little higher if needed.
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:44 PM
 
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Perhaps a bit further east than you would like but given your occupation and the booming economy there, Omaha could be a great match for you.
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Old 01-09-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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Perhaps a bit further east than you would like but given your occupation and the booming economy there, Omaha could be a great match for you.
Thanks for the suggestions. Never thought of Omaha - I will add it to my research list. I have about 4-5 months to figure things out.
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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An unexpected place to check out would be Palm Springs, CA.

You could easily rent a condo in your range, and many complexes have their own gym. It is low altitude, at the base of a mountain (Mt. San Jacinto) that gets lots of snow, so even on a warm day in PS, you can just drive up to it (see Idyllwild) for the winter sports. There is plenty of nightlife, top cultural opportunities like film festivals, midcentury architecture tours, a good art museum and many excellent and ethnically diverse restaurants. Yes, it's brutally hot in summer during the daytime but there is swimming (every place has a pool). But the sun goes down early behind the mountain, and the summer nights are warm and dry and great for walks, biking, outdoor dining under the stars. Neighborhoods are quiet but you can go to the main streets like Palm Canyon Blvd. which are bustling with people. Tourists are limited to a few months in winter. And there is an international airport there.
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:10 PM
 
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$10 per month per person gym fee?

Shoulda stayed in Boston if that matters so much. I have never seen a fee even close to that, even for a no-frills free-weights-only gym...and that was 25 years ago!

Wouldn't you still have to chase customers anywhere else, too? There are lots of web designers in the west, even in small cities and towns.

Of your wants list, only three items do not contain some kind of negative comment.

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Old 01-09-2017, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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I'm just teasing you. No offense intended but "back out east"?!
Out west. Back east.
Consider Boise or Salt Lake City.
Consider Boise, ID or Salt Lake City.
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Old 01-09-2017, 09:26 PM
 
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An unexpected place to check out would be Palm Springs, CA.

You could easily rent a condo in your range, and many complexes have their own gym. It is low altitude, at the base of a mountain (Mt. San Jacinto) that gets lots of snow, so even on a warm day in PS, you can just drive up to it (see Idyllwild) for the winter sports. There is plenty of nightlife, top cultural opportunities like film festivals, midcentury architecture tours, a good art museum and many excellent and ethnically diverse restaurants. Yes, it's brutally hot in summer during the daytime but there is swimming (every place has a pool). But the sun goes down early behind the mountain, and the summer nights are warm and dry and great for walks, biking, outdoor dining under the stars. Neighborhoods are quiet but you can go to the main streets like Palm Canyon Blvd. which are bustling with people. Tourists are limited to a few months in winter. And there is an international airport there.
Thanks for the suggestion. I am actually vacationing to the area in a few weeks, so I'll have to check into more!
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Old 01-09-2017, 09:28 PM
 
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I'm just teasing you. No offense intended but "back out east"?!
Out west. Back east.
Consider Boise or Salt Lake City.
Consider Boise, ID or Salt Lake City.
Salt Lake City is on the list, although I am not sure how the area is for non Mormons. Not a fan of Boise other than the beautiful greenbelt. Lived near there several years ago and thought it was a bit isolated and boring.
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Old 01-09-2017, 09:31 PM
 
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$10 per month per person gym fee?

Shoulda stayed in Boston if that matters so much. I have never seen a fee even close to that, even for a no-frills free-weights-only gym...and that was 25 years ago!

Wouldn't you still have to chase customers anywhere else, too? There are lots of web designers in the west, even in small cities and towns.

Of your wants list, only three items do not contain some kind of negative comment.
It's all the little things that add up! Work out World is a great gym in Mass that is just 10 bucks - they even have an infrared sauna. I was looking for a basic ten buck Planet Fitness which is basically available in any decent sized metro area.

Yea, it will be tough finding clients anywhere although we already have about 80k a year secured so anything extra will be extra. Finding a nicer place to live & have an opportunity to find clients would be the perfect scenario.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Salt Lake City is on the list, although I am not sure how the area is for non Mormons. Not a fan of Boise other than the beautiful greenbelt. Lived near there several years ago and thought it was a bit isolated and boring.
Salt Lake is totally fine for non-Mormons. As i said in a recent post on another thread, Salt Lake City is changing (has been for years) and they even elected a lesbian for mayor so that says something. And i'm not tuned into the small business world but for some reason i have it in my head that it's a good place in that regard.
The temp inversions and resulting poor air quality in the winter is a drag but i think that's just in the winter. I have family from Salt Lake and went to UofU for a brief time. My memory is that for a stretch of time in the winter it was just socked in. Maybe it's worse now. Check on the Utah forum about that.
Yeah, Boise isn't actually a city that i'm crazy about but many people like it.
Have you considered Santa Fe?
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