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Old 02-06-2017, 11:34 AM
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Not really related, but it's interesting that the two most popular archetypes of Italian-American masculinity--James Gandolfini and Robert De Niro--are (were) liberals.
Not really, as most actors are liberals.
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Old 02-06-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Not really, as most actors are liberals.
The fact that they are liberal actors isn't surprising to me. It's just that it's interesting that the characters they play are sort of your prototypical East Coast trump supporter while the actors themselves are (were) really nothing like that in real life.
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Old 02-06-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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The fact that they are liberal actors isn't surprising to me. It's just that it's interesting that the characters they play are sort of your prototypical East Coast trump supporter while the actors themselves are (were) really nothing like that in real life.
Actors portray characters unlike themselves?!?!
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Old 02-06-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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The Italian-Trump boost may have been limited to the NYC area; it's not obvious in New England though the Italian concentrations aren't higher. Trump didn't get any special boost among Boston area Irish. Although, there was a large swing towards Trump in Rhode Island which has among the highest Italian concentration in New England.
Italians in the NYC area seem to be more Republican than those of New England, Upstate NY, Chicago etc.
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Old 02-06-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Italians in the NYC area seem to be more Republican than those of New England, Upstate NY, Chicago etc.
Stats on this?

Also fwiw most Italians I have known in Chicago were quite socially conservative compared to other European groups. Not West Michigan Dutch level but definitely more than the Polish, Irish, or Jews.
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Old 02-06-2017, 03:55 PM
 
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Stats on this?

Also fwiw most Italians I have known in Chicago were quite socially conservative compared to other European groups. Not West Michigan Dutch level but definitely more than the Polish, Irish, or Jews.
I don't have stats for this, that's why I said "it seems."

But that does raise an interesting question. Are Italian Americans more socially conservative or fiscally conservative?
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Old 02-06-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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Italians in the NYC area seem to be more Republican than those of New England, Upstate NY, Chicago etc.
I'm not sure if Italians are more Republican in the Tri-State area than they are in the Delaware Valley. Gloucester County, NJ is 25.9% Italian and went for Trump. Compare that to Bucks County, PA, which has a higher NHW%, but voted Clinton.

You would probably need a map breaking down the vote by precinct to put your theory to the test. In most metros, the Italian-American population isn't sufficiently concentrated to really get a feel for things. It's a lot easier in NY/NJ, obviously.
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Old 02-06-2017, 05:21 PM
 
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HRC won three Boston suburbs with large Italian American populations - Stoneham, Wakefield and Revere.
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:16 PM
 
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Default Why is New Jersey more commonly associated with Italians in popular culture than Long Island?

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The Sopranos, Real Housewives of New Jersey, Jersey Shore etc. It seems that NJ is more associated with Italian Americans in popular culture than Long Island even though both are heavily Italian.
Back to the OP.

Assuming King of K. if what you say is true (I have no idea what people in other parts of the country think about this), it could be simply that New Jersey is simply a lot larger than Long Island (the independent counties of Nassau and Suffolk) and has cities/industrial areas that Nassau and Suffolk really don't have.

In other words, if you are a TV show producer and want to include the possibilities of showing scenes in a urban setting like Newark or a large area of industrial oil tanks, there is nothing really like that on Long Island. I think people see Long Island as mostly suburbs and with a mysterious area called the Hamptons.
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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In other words, if you are a TV show producer and want to include the possibilities of showing scenes in a urban setting like Newark or a large area of industrial oil tanks, there is nothing really like that on Long Island. I think people see Long Island as mostly suburbs and with a mysterious area called the Hamptons.
David Chase grew up in North Jersey and wanted to make a show in North Jersey. If Chase had grown up on Long Island, maybe Satriale's would be in some predominantly Italian-American town in Suffolk County instead of Kearny.

There was no special reason Chase chose New Jersey other than the fact he was raised there in a Catholic, Italian-American family. People create art around things that are familiar. It's why David Simon chose Baltimore. It's why so many John Hughes' films were set in the tony northern suburbs of Chicago.
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