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Old 01-24-2017, 08:53 PM
 
Location: The Pacific Northwest
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Most of the Indiana suburbs of Chicago are perfectly habitable but I don't think any of them are actively sought out by people who have the means to live wherever they want in the region. Most of NWI has a working/middle-class post-industrial feel, and of course Gary drags down NWI's reputation quite a lot.
That's true... the best suburbs in Indiana are definitely in Hamilton County north of Indy; however, I believe pound for pound the highest home values in the state are in NWI's nicer Chicago suburbs (Munster, Tri-Cities specifically) and that's due to the effect of proximity to Chicago paired with Indiana's comparatively lower tax burden. Also, there are a number of beach communities along the southern shore of Lake Michigan. See for example:

Dune Acres, IN
Median household income: $143,526
Median home value: $635,612

Long Beach, IN
Median household income: $77,991
Median home value: $458,183

Beverly Shores, IN
Median household income: $71,022
Median home value: $413,945

Ogden Dunes, IN
Median household income: $103,517
Median home value: $335,810

You really aren't going to see those home values anywhere else in the state, even though the incomes are fairly unremarkable. Whether or not these are "suburbs" in the traditional sense is debatable, but they are located firmly in the Chicago metro area, save Long Beach which I think is in the CSA. They are small enclaves completely surrounded by the National Lakeshore though, and are very desirable since they're right on the lake, and development is constrained by the boundaries of the park. They are popular among wealthy Chicagoans who own summer beach homes there as well as artists and other creative types. I know that if I had unlimited income but had to live in Indiana, I would choose one of those communities.

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Old 01-24-2017, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
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What about Vancouver, (not B.C.), Washington (not D.C.) across the river from Portland?
I don't think so. Seattle is generally more desirable. The west for the most part doesn't have metropolises that cross state lines, and when they do, the far side generally isn't the better part. Perhaps a case could be made for Cheyanne, WY being a suburb of Denver, if Cheyanne is considered the best part of the state.
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Old 01-24-2017, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I think most people believe that Northern VA is the best part of the state. The same is probably true of Northern NJ and Southern NH. Are there any other states where the most expensive/desirable/beloved area is just a suburb for a city outside of the state?
i think NOVA is the least liked part of the state for many. cost of living, traffic, etc.
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Old 01-24-2017, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Cbus
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There are actually some really nice parts of New Rochelle that are as affluent as anything in Scarsdale. This is New Rochelle:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9549...8i6656!6m1!1e1
That's fair. My main point was just saying flat out that Westchester County is more desirable than anything in North Jersey, Long Island or Connecticut is not exactly true.
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Old 01-24-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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i think NOVA is the least liked part of the state for many. cost of living, traffic, etc.
True, but NoVA is the best performing part of the state with the most jobs, highest incomes, lowest crime rates, most amenities, most advanced infrastructure, etc. The only real negatives it has are those that come with being part of a top 10 metro area.
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Old 01-24-2017, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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That's true... the best suburbs in Indiana are definitely in Hamilton County north of Indy; however, I believe pound for pound the highest home values in the state are in NWI's nicer Chicago suburbs (Munster, Tri-Cities specifically) and that's due to the effect of proximity to Chicago paired with Indiana's comparatively lower tax burden. Also, there are a number of beach communities along the southern shore of Lake Michigan. See for example:

Dune Acres, IN
Median household income: $143,526
Median home value: $635,612

Long Beach, IN
Median household income: $77,991
Median home value: $458,183

Beverly Shores, IN
Median household income: $71,022
Median home value: $413,945

Ogden Dunes, IN
Median household income: $103,517
Median home value: $335,810

You really aren't going to see those home values anywhere else in the state, even though the incomes are fairly unremarkable. Whether or not these are "suburbs" in the traditional sense is debatable, but they are located firmly in the Chicago metro area, save Long Beach which I think is in the CSA. They are small enclaves completely surrounded by the National Lakeshore though, and are very desirable since they're right on the lake, and development is constrained by the boundaries of the park. They are popular among wealthy Chicagoans who own summer beach homes there as well as artists and other creative types. I know that if I had unlimited income but had to live in Indiana, I would choose one of those communities.
I've seen a couple of those shore communities, and honestly they're a little weird. By and large the homes aren't that impressive and the beach/shore ambiance is hard to pull off when your little hamlet is dwarfed by the industrial grit and decay around it. I guess it works if you want to live close to the shore on a budget but feels like the Redneck Riviera of the Midwest, the kind of place where Dan and Rosesanne Connor would move for retirement.
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Old 01-25-2017, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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There are actually some really nice parts of New Rochelle that are as affluent as anything in Scarsdale. This is New Rochelle:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9549...8i6656!6m1!1e1
"Well, you made a long journey from Milan to Minsk, Rochelle, Rochelle. You never stopped hoping; now you're in a Pinsk, Rochelle, Rochelle. When the naysayers 'nay' you picked up your pace. You said nothing's going to stop me so get out of my face. I'm having adventures all over the place, Rochelle, ROCHELLE!"

https://youtu.be/eje2Eh37DxM
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