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Old 03-03-2008, 07:25 PM
 
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San Francisco and New York are far ahead of any other U.S. city. The second tier would be Chicago, DC, maybe Boston.
Wow, that's funny. San Francisco better than Chicago at anything? That's a joke right? Boston, DC, and San Francisco are no way more cosmopolitan than LA.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:27 PM
 
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You're the one saying that L.A. is the second most important city. But Chicago is the second contestant, not L.A.
Read more carefully, I'm talking in terms of skyline because you said "I don't see L.A. competing in the skyscraper contest." I responded about the skyline, not the global status of the cities.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:28 PM
 
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how about we just focus on cities that aren't the top 3? I think most people agree that NYC, LA and Chi are certainly among the top cosmo cities in the country.

After that, and prob San Fran, it gets a lot more interesting in the discussion.

Or...it'll just crash and burn that much faster.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Please! The mayor Gavin Newsom doesn't seem to think so. He's in Chicago every other week kissing mayor Daley's ass. Daley the man he has said is the best mayor of our time. Newsom has made it perfectly clear that Chicago is the model he uses when envisioning a 21st. Century San Fran. There have been numerous articles in the S.F. Chronicle discussing S.F's city government and their desire to, and I quote "change San Fran into Chicago". A takes more than a great Asian food scene, a wharf, a huge gay community and a couple of cultural institution to be cosmopolitan. Actually, I put NYC, Chicago, San Fran, and DC at the top, but for you to suggest that San Fran is in the same league as NYC, in anything, is laughable. At least Mayor Newsom seems to think so and he should know
From the standpoint of efficient public planning and beautiful public spaces-Chicago is a model-if not the model. Congratulations.

From the standpoint of cosmopolitanism-The Bay Area is really in a different league. I mean, no offense to Chicagoland, but the majority 7M+ people who live here are in households headed by someone who is foreign born. That's astounding and only LA and Miami are higher. However unlike Miami and LA, we have nearly as many Asians as we do Hispanics and their influence on the rest of us is not only noticeable but part of everyday life. Not to mention educational attainment levels and income levels in this region would indicate people who are more apt to be worldly in their interests and pursuits.

I dont have anything against Chicago and definitely consider it Cosmopolitan too. But were we to rank cities, SF would be at very least equal to LA or NY, while Chicago would be a tad lower.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:49 PM
 
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how about we just focus on cities that aren't the top 3? I think most people agree that NYC, LA and Chi are certainly among the top cosmo cities in the country.

After that, and prob San Fran, it gets a lot more interesting in the discussion.

Or...it'll just crash and burn that much faster.
That's a good idea.

After the big three, it would be SF, Philly, Boston, and DC in order. After that would come Houston and Miami, and maybe even SD.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Boston, DC, and San Francisco are no way more cosmopolitan than LA.
Chicago, Boston and DC are not.

San Francisco and The Bay Area on the other hand is in LA and its Metro's league, easily.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:07 PM
 
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yeah, but the BA is not moreso.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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yeah, but the BA is not moreso.
Actually the Greater Bay Area is a bit moreso.

I cant believe the ignorance people have of the region. I think that because the area is so incredibly rich and smart, people expect us to be all white. But in actually, we have no racial majority.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Denver
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No mention of Atlanta huh ?
This is a major hub for business and transportation.
I have to imagine there is a global presence everyday.

( never been there, it just stands the reason )

I have lived, worked or have done business in:
Chicago, L.A. S.F. S.D. Orange Co. and Seattle.
These are all Cosmopolitan with regards to global influence
in business. Admittedly I have never done the east coast
( but looking forward to it ) but only an idiot would discount
any of the large cities. Honestly, I just don't get the pissing contest.
This country is "the country " in the business world and many
cities represent us.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Honestly, it depends on which definition of cosmopolitan you use.

A city made up of only one ethnicity or race can be 100% cosmopolitan if all of its residents have traveled around the world (not just one continent) and enjoy different cultural meals at home or enjoy different cultural aspects like music, dances and literature from around the world.
That's the kind of thing I mean. Of course, the city doesn't have to be made up of only one ethnicity or race - it can be very diverse.

Also, I'm talking about how cosmopolitan the city's residents are. If a city is 60% white and 40% Asian, but the whites only listen to country music and eat steak than it doesn't qualify.
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