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View Poll Results: Which of the stated max gross rent prices are realistic for the metro area?
San Jose metro 2 22.22%
Los Angeles metro 2 22.22%
New York metro 1 11.11%
Miami metro 1 11.11%
Austin metro 2 22.22%
Chicago metro 0 0%
Dallas metro 2 22.22%
Detroit metro 3 33.33%
Oklahoma City metro 4 44.44%
Wheeling metro 2 22.22%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-14-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Let's assume that someone goes apartment hunting for an "average" non-luxury apartment within each of the following metropolitan areas with a maximum budget for rent as specified in the list below. The rent is gross rent, which is the contract rent plus any utilities (i.e. electric, heat, gas, oil, water, sewer, etc.) other than communications utilities. How realistic is each budget listed below? I am trying to get an idea of market rent prices across the country in various metropolitan areas (not the urban core alone). By "average" apartment, I mean 600 square feet, 1 bedroom, reasonably updated, with no dishwasher and no washer/dryer in the unit, in a non-trendy, average neighborhood, but also within reasonable commuting distance (say less than 30 mins) to the urban core of the metro area.

San Jose metro - $1,850
Los Angeles metro - $1,450
New York metro - $1,400
Miami metro - $1,250
Austin metro - $1,150
Chicago metro - $1,100
Dallas metro - $1,050
Detroit metro - $950
Oklahoma City metro - $850
Wheeling metro - $600

You can also use the poll in this thread to vote for the prices that you think are realistic. Remember, these stated prices are MAX prices, including non-communications utilities.
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Old 02-14-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Chicago metro - $1,100
https://www.zumper.com/blog/2016/12/...december-2016/

That's just for the city. I've never looked for an apartment in the suburbs. Mind you, you definitely wouldn't want to live in some of those neighborhoods on the map. Rogers Park on the north lakefront remains quite the bargain though. Its downside is commute time to downtown via public transportation.
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Old 02-14-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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https://www.zumper.com/blog/2016/12/...december-2016/

That's just for the city. I've never looked for an apartment in the suburbs. Mind you, you definitely wouldn't want to live in some of those neighborhoods on the map. Rogers Park on the north lakefront remains quite the bargain though. Its downside is commute time to downtown via public transportation.
So basically, if I wanted a place for say, $1,050 in the actual city, I'm screwed?
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Old 02-14-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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So basically, if I wanted a place for say, $1,050 in the actual city, I'm screwed?
The link I provided is only the city of Chicago. There are neighborhoods in your price range and under, but they're not going to be the neighborhoods typically recommended to transplants looking to move to Chicago. Eliminating the dangerous neighborhoods leaves you with various family oriented neighborhoods and working class neighborhoods.

Rogers Park, which I mentioned in my initial post, is something of an exception though. It's a diverse lakefront neighborhood and home to Loyola University. It's going to have a similar built environment to much of the North Side, but with better access to the lake and beaches because Lake Shore Dr doesn't go that far north.

If you were to take the L in the morning though, your commute time is going to be more like 40ish minutes into the Loop depending on how far you'd have to walk to a station and how far you'd have to walk from a station after getting downtown.

This would be Rogers Park:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0014...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0055...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0079...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0160...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ro...695529!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0089...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9982...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0045...8i6656!6m1!1e1

I included some shots of main thoroughfares, the areas near L stations, and an example of a street dead ending at the beach.

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Old 02-14-2017, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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The link I provided is only the city of Chicago. There are neighborhoods in your price range and under, but they're not going to be the neighborhoods typically recommended to transplants looking to move to Chicago. Eliminating the dangerous neighborhoods leaves you with various family oriented neighborhoods and working class neighborhoods.

Rogers Park, which I mentioned in my initial post, is something of an exception though. It's a diverse lakefront neighborhood and home to Loyola University. It's going to have a similar built environment to much of the North Side, but with better access to the lake and beaches because Lake Shore Dr doesn't go that far north.

If you were to take the L in the morning though, your commute time is going to be more like 40ish minutes into the Loop depending on how far you'd have to walk to a station and how far you'd have to walk from a station after getting downtown.

This would be Rogers Park:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0014...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0055...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0079...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0160...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ro...695529!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0089...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9982...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0045...8i6656!6m1!1e1

I included some shots of main thoroughfares, the areas near L stations, and an example of a street dead ending at the beach.
Those are nice screenshots. Although it seems like those are pretty dense neighborhoods.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Haven't lived in Austin in a while, but best way to answer that is......yes. And no. I guess it all depends. There are apartments in DC for 900.00 a month, just not sure you would want to live there.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Those are nice screenshots. Although it seems like those are pretty dense neighborhoods.
Chicago's lakefront neighborhoods are typically quite dense. If wikipedia is to be believed, Rogers Park had a density of 30,000 people per square mile at the 2010 census. In comparison, the densest neighborhood in the city is 33,000 per square mile, and that's Edgewater immediately to Rogers Park's south.

Jefferson Park out towards O'Hare would be less dense and more bungalow oriented. Here's the L station and some random streets:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9694...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Je...703998!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9813...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9856...8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9786...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Jefferson Park would be about 11,000 people per square mile. Like I said though, it's going to be a more quiet neighborhood. Lots of single family homes, lots of Polish people, lots of Latino families moving in who were priced out of neighborhoods that gentrified like Logan Square further southeast down the Blue Line. That being said, bungalow belt neighborhoods seem to be impervious to gentrification. Probably because they're less dense and more car oriented than the denser neighborhoods closer to downtown and the lake.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and wherever planes fly
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I have two friends with decent places just outside Dallas downtown for 975 and 1050 respectively. OKC should be doable as well for the price listed. Detroit and Austin, possibly with the prices listed.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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What can you get for $2,250 in the SF area?
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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Very realistic for OKC. I live just under a mile north of downtown OKC in a 750 sf historic apartment and my rent + utilities is usually right around $800.
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