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Old 05-19-2017, 09:25 PM
 
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Well let's see how Chicago and NW Indiana have more characteristics reminiscent of the Philly area:

They both have more density than their respective states
They both are faster paced than the rest of their respective states
They both have a very industrial heritage (which yes the Northeast is known for especially the Mid-Atlantic portion)
They have higher concentrations of White ethnics (Italians, Irish, Poles, Eastern Europeans)
There is a lot of forested area juxtaposed with industrial remains (compare the Indiana National Lakeshore with the Pine Barrens)
They both have suburbs which show decay (Gary, Camden) while the main city has shifted from one industry to multiple

So I think that the NW/Calumet region shares more than a few similarities with the Philly metro.

Bonus: Both Indiana and New Jersey are known in their respective areas as the "armpit of America"
Only to idiots.
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Old 05-20-2017, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I one reason that Delaware is so quiet on the matter is that they're considered an extension of Philly, so they're northeastern by default. MD on the other hand, outside of the DC area, is culturally self-contained. That self contained culture is what where the debates comes from. I personally think that MD is southern, but it isn't your stereotypical southern state, similar to how Florida is perceived. I think some people in MD, and many more outside of it, have an incredibly difficult time grasping that reality. I also think that it speaks to how RIDICULOUSLY diverse the south really is.

You're a Baltimore area native, what do you think?
I grew up in Howard County, and have lived in DC, Bmore, Philly, Michigan and now Chicago...... I still visit family frequently in the MD/DC area and honestly the North/South thing never comes up in everyday conversation in MD/DC.

It's officially classified as Southern by the census, and despite what people on this site say, I know a good number of people from the northeast and Midwest that consider it southern, even if people from the south don't.

It just seems strange to harp on whether it's classified as northern/southern so much. I can see why some would consider it southern and why some would consider it northern, so I don't understand the sensitive responses to its location in all these threads; it comes off as insecurity and wanna-be-ish.

I agree with your assessment of Delaware, but even if Delaware isn't included in the NE on some these threads (or is included as Southern), you don't see Delaware posters getting sensitive and going off-topic for pages to argue that they are pat of the NE.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:46 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I grew up in Howard County, and have lived in DC, Bmore, Philly, Michigan and now Chicago...... I still visit family frequently in the MD/DC area and honestly the North/South thing never comes up in everyday conversation in MD/DC.

It's officially classified as Southern by the census, and despite what people on this site say, I know a good number of people from the northeast and Midwest that consider it southern, even if people from the south don't.

It just seems strange to harp on whether it's classified as northern/southern so much. I can see why some would consider it southern and why some would consider it northern, so I don't understand the sensitive responses to its location in all these threads; it comes off as insecurity and wanna-be-ish.

I agree with your assessment of Delaware, but even if Delaware isn't included in the NE on some these threads (or is included as Southern), you don't see Delaware posters getting sensitive and going off-topic for pages to argue that they are pat of the NE.
The words in bold are mainly coming from the DC area. In reality, people in Baltimore don't really care either way, but on City Data, most of us are city geeks, so we'll do some deliberating. I personally don't see the why some posters are fighting so hard to be a part of the northeast ,though; the south is and will continue you to be the hottest region in the country (no pun intended) for the foreseeable future.
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Old 05-20-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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Chicago's north shore, and neighborhoods like Lincoln Park give off a very east coast vibe.

If you squint a little, colonial cities like Savanah and Charleston might feel somewhat like the Northeast. Only downtown and only on couple of streets though.
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Why isn't there ever a debate about which northeastern city is the most southern, or what non-southern city is the most southern?
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