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View Poll Results: What is the most unassimilated immigrant community in America?
Miami Cubans 11 14.10%
Dearborn Arabs /Detroit area 34 43.59%
Rio Grande Valley Mexicans 13 16.67%
Southern California Mexicans 5 6.41%
San Francisco Chinese 8 10.26%
Boston Irish 1 1.28%
New Jersey Italians 1 1.28%
Louisiana French / Cajuns 1 1.28%
Upper Midwest Germans 2 2.56%
Hawaii Japanese 2 2.56%
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I can't believe the poll is missing the blatantly obvious.

I'll give a hint, these groups in the poll don't kill Americans nearly as much as the obvious one...
The group you are referring to aren't immigrants, considering their ancestors didn't come here by choice.
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:31 PM
 
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I'm shocked everyone is saying the Detroit area Arab community. Having been to the area a lot and been around in Dearborn, it always felt very nice and integrated. Upstanding community, open, lots of retail and commercial options in the area to draw people in. I don't see what people think is so isolated about it??

I would say from my perspective it would be Rio Grade Mexican community. Not much "American" integration going on there from my travels.
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:02 PM
 
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The group you are referring to aren't immigrants, considering their ancestors didn't come here by choice.
That's not the group I'm referring to.
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I'm shocked everyone is saying the Detroit area Arab community. Having been to the area a lot and been around in Dearborn, it always felt very nice and integrated. Upstanding community, open, lots of retail and commercial options in the area to draw people in. I don't see what people think is so isolated about it??

I would say from my perspective it would be Rio Grade Mexican community. Not much "American" integration going on there from my travels.
I think it's due to the overall perception people have of Arabic and Muslim-based communities these days. I definitely agree with you on the Rio Grande area.
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:21 AM
 
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I'm shocked everyone is saying the Detroit area Arab community. Having been to the area a lot and been around in Dearborn, it always felt very nice and integrated. Upstanding community, open, lots of retail and commercial options in the area to draw people in. I don't see what people think is so isolated about it??

I would say from my perspective it would be Rio Grade Mexican community. Not much "American" integration going on there from my travels.
I'm pretty sure everyone there 2nd+ gen is assimilated
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Hasidic Jews or Amish. I can't think of a least integrated group. I would say Lebanese and Palestinian Muslims are one of the most integrated groups in America, a huge percent of them don't even were the hijab and rarely go to mosques.
Also what immigrant are you talking about? Saudi Arabian Muslims? We don't have a lot of those over here as Saudi is Relatively rich though. But the immigrant group that has probably blown up the most stuff, is the Irish, when they were building this railroads they blew up everything.
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:52 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I can't think of a least integrated group. I would say Lebanese and Palestinian Muslims are one of the most integrated groups in America, a huge percent of them don't even were the hijab and rarely go to mosques.
I don't consider someone wearing a hijab or going to a mosque as being non-assimilated in America. That is simply an exercise of religious freedom (a very American value).

I think people are confusing assimilation with acculturation. Maybe some people consider those to be the same thing. I guess the farther away someone is from traditional WASP values, the less American they are?
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Old 03-28-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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This poll seems to speak to me more of a bias against Arab Americans than anything else. The Arab community here is so incredibly diverse that there's really no way for them to form a separate community. They are from different nations, backgrounds, beliefs. You have Catholics, Protestents, Greek Orthodox, Maronite, Sunni, Shia, Atheists, and they hail from Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen, Turkey...

What I'm getting at is that there is not really much of an established "Arab Community" so much as there are "Lots of Arab Americans living within the existing community." They work in every career field, interact freely with the existing community, and though they have concentrated some of their population in Dearborn and Hamtramck, they're probably one of the lesser segregated races in the area. Dearborn is probably only 35% Arab descent. Contrast that with some of the 95% Hispanic communities along the southern border and tell me Dearborn is less integrated.
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Old 04-02-2017, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I don't consider someone wearing a hijab or going to a mosque as being non-assimilated in America. That is simply an exercise of religious freedom (a very American value).

I think people are confusing assimilation with acculturation. Maybe some people consider those to be the same thing. I guess the farther away someone is from traditional WASP values, the less American they are?
I'm not saying that those who were hijabs or go to mosques aren't assimilated, I just said a huge percentage of them don't even look identifiable muslim. I know a muslim girl from Turkey who happens to look Chinese (Central Asians and their weird features) and doesn't wear a hijab yet holds some pretty conservative views, while another who wears hijabs and is a party animal.
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Old 04-03-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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This poll seems to speak to me more of a bias against Arab Americans than anything else. The Arab community here is so incredibly diverse that there's really no way for them to form a separate community. They are from different nations, backgrounds, beliefs. You have Catholics, Protestents, Greek Orthodox, Maronite, Sunni, Shia, Atheists, and they hail from Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen, Turkey...

What I'm getting at is that there is not really much of an established "Arab Community" so much as there are "Lots of Arab Americans living within the existing community." They work in every career field, interact freely with the existing community, and though they have concentrated some of their population in Dearborn and Hamtramck, they're probably one of the lesser segregated races in the area. Dearborn is probably only 35% Arab descent. Contrast that with some of the 95% Hispanic communities along the southern border and tell me Dearborn is less integrated.
*ding* We have a winner! I agree, there's clearly a bias and a disconnect when not realizing how many varying Hispanic nationalities fail to assimilate across the board in many instances.
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