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Old 04-08-2017, 08:37 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Ann Arbor, MI seems like it belongs in the Northeast to me.
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Chicago. It's so much larger than any other midwestern city and feels more Northeast that any other midwestern city.
I can see someone saying that about Chicago but I am curious about Ann Arbor. All I know about the city is that is a big college town (or I think it is anyway).
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Old 04-08-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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How is Nola and ATL not southern? Like someone said above, just because a city is progressive and thriving doesn't mean it's not southern. Come on now. Houston is a booming, liberal (ffs, the mayor is a lesbian), thriving city, does that not make it southern?
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Old 04-08-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Agreed. I live in one of the most heavily democratic majority-white cities in the country....and this is still on every way a southern town.

Dumb generalization to say that "liberal area= not really southern.

The whole Research Triangle area of NC is pretty progressive overall. We're still the south
Yea. Not like politics are everything, anyway. But all the dumb reasons people try to say a southern city isn't really "in the south", its just condescending. If you have a lot of immigrants= not the South. Apparently only the North and West can have immigrants. Despite the fact that the South has had a lot of immigrants too, particularly in coastal cities. If you have too many transplants= not the South. Apparently people who have only lived in a city for around 5-10 years have the magical power to define it more than the people who've grown up there or the generations that lived there since its founding.


Apparently being part of the South is a very fragile thing and any deviation means you just don't make the cut. God forbid the South have nice things like cities that are doing well and places that aren't still full of Jim Crow-esque attitudes. God forbid the South is anything but the poster child scapegoat of America's social ills. God forbid the South be just as multicultural as the North and West claim to be. They can't accept large diverse cities as being part of the South because then its not the easy punching bag they claim it to be.
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Old 04-08-2017, 04:46 PM
 
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How is Nola and ATL not southern? Like someone said above, just because a city is progressive and thriving doesn't mean it's not southern. Come on now. Houston is a booming, liberal (ffs, the mayor is a lesbian), thriving city, does that not make it southern?
Sylvester Turner is the mayor of Houston now not Parker.I would not exactly say Houston is booming since West Texas Intermediate is still cheap.I think Austin does not fit in Texas because of its politics or at least that what I have heard.
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Old 04-08-2017, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Agreed. I live in one of the most heavily democratic majority-white cities in the country....and this is still on every way a southern town.

Dumb generalization to say that "liberal area= not really southern.

The whole Research Triangle area of NC is pretty progressive overall. We're still the south
I also agree.

It's weird too how anywhere progressive is stripped of its southern identity in people's eyes, and yet the most backwoods redneck areas of the north are almost never accused of not being "truly northern".
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Old 04-08-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Mobile,Al(the city by the bay)
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Yea. Not like politics are everything, anyway. But all the dumb reasons people try to say a southern city isn't really "in the south", its just condescending. If you have a lot of immigrants= not the South. Apparently only the North and West can have immigrants. Despite the fact that the South has had a lot of immigrants too, particularly in coastal cities. If you have too many transplants= not the South. Apparently people who have only lived in a city for around 5-10 years have the magical power to define it more than the people who've grown up there or the generations that lived there since its founding.


Apparently being part of the South is a very fragile thing and any deviation means you just don't make the cut. God forbid the South have nice things like cities that are doing well and places that aren't still full of Jim Crow-esque attitudes. God forbid the South is anything but the poster child scapegoat of America's social ills. God forbid the South be just as multicultural as the North and West claim to be. They can't accept large diverse cities as being part of the South because then its not the easy punching bag they claim it to be.
Well said !
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Old 04-08-2017, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Poughkeepsie, New York
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Baltimore and DC, regardless if you group them with the northeast or the south
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Old 04-08-2017, 10:52 PM
 
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I can see someone saying that about Chicago but I am curious about Ann Arbor. All I know about the city is that is a big college town (or I think it is anyway).
I think due to the liberal nature of the city and the type of vibe/stature that the University gives off likely has to do with why the poster said that.
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Old 04-09-2017, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I hate the idea that any city thats "progressive" isn't "REALLY the South" because God forbid that the South is anything more than racist rednecks toting guns and waving rebel flags. I don't think New Orleans "doesn't fit" in the South. New Orleans is VERY unique and distinct, but it wouldn't fit ANYWHERE besides the South. Nowhere in the country do you have that cultural and historic blend of French, Spanish and African among other cultures, besides the South. Nowhere do you get that same sultry year round warm weather, than in the South. Nowhere do you get those live oaks with massive mossy branches forming beautiful canopies in the city, than in the South. New Orleans is one of the flagship cities of the South.

Cities that fall in this category are more places like Louisville, which is literally on the border with a northern state. Or Cincinatti which is like the reverse. St. Louis is still solidly Midwestern but it seems to have ties to the delta South via the Missisisppi River. It seems like a northern brother of Memphis. I'm planning to go up there next month.
I agree. I think that New Orleans is deliciously southern to it's very core.

I visited West Virginia a couple of years ago and went to the Greenbrier Resort. Everywhere I looked, there was "southern paraphernalia" but I hate to break it to them - the Greenbrier is not a southern resort and it's not in a southern state. Wannabees! LOL

I think that Springfield, MO feels southern though it's technically not. Same with Oklahoma City.

I think that there's a distinctly southern vibe to some of the cities in Ohio, which definitely surprised me.
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Old 04-09-2017, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Sylvester Turner is the mayor of Houston now not Parker.I would not exactly say Houston is booming since West Texas Intermediate is still cheap.I think Austin does not fit in Texas because of its politics or at least that what I have heard.
Austin is just as Texan if not more than Houston or Dallas.
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