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Once again: not gonna happen.
It's not like Houston and other sunbelt cities have unlimited land. Yeah, most of them have more land than NYC, but NYC makes much better use of its land. Like another poster said, Houston would have to just keep annexing more land for that to ever happen. A LOT more land. NYC finds new ways to build and further density on land it already has, and the way NYC is built allows for that density. Sunbelt cities do not.
You must be threatened by Houston's ominous shadow.
Why do so many people here just project out current straight line population trends and then act as if that is what will happen? That's not reality, things change economically, socially, demographically, and logistically. Once an area reaches certain levels of population it becomes much much harder to continue to grow at anything like the previous rates that got it there, especially for a sprawling city like Houston. Unless it keeps growing by annexing as has been mentioned, but that isn't growing a city, its just changing the definition to make it even more suburban.
Why do so many people here just project out current straight line population trends and then act as if that is what will happen? That's not reality, things change economically, socially, demographically, and logistically. Once an area reaches certain levels of population it becomes much much harder to continue to grow at anything like the previous rates that got it there, especially for a sprawling city like Houston. Unless it keeps growing by annexing as has been mentioned, but that isn't growing a city, its just changing the definition to make it even more suburban.
I'm not really complementing Houston to say this. But even if it annexes no more land. Houston has a lot of old sprawl with older ranch homes on largish lots to keep it re-doing with newer denser infill for years to come.
It will evolve to another city as it continues to add infill of whole new blocks. But reply has no plan to guide developers. They basically build what they want. Time will tell if a "no zoning" re-built city becomes the envy of the nations other cities? But IT CAN'T DO WORST then it already has.....
Some older growth cities actually partitioned new blocks of growth before developers built the homes to sell. Houston just lets developers re-do the whole block as it wants..... just don't mess with the ditch. LOL. That can hide it better and cover and curb the street. Again, 'cause the city ain't gonna do it. So whole new developments within the city can still have ditches more like a 3rd world one. But t least it can be nice and green.... and still have a ugly wooden power-line pole in fronts.
Houston to be end largest city in America eventually?
A bleak future indeed if Houston somehow inherits that designation. Most of our major cities are on the coast and with rising sea levels they will be at risk. Flat coastal areas will not be attractive as marshes. I think an inland city has a better chance --- and yes, the entire metropolitan area is the proper measurement. Albuquerque is bigger than Atlanta if you only look at city limit population.
And the idea from whoever said Houston has been in economic trouble recently? Whaaaa??? Where did you get that? That's not even close to true. Just an fyi for everyone bc that's blatant misinformation.
Do you really want me to explain the scale of the problem?
Once again: not gonna happen.
It's not like Houston and other sunbelt cities have unlimited land. Yeah, most of them have more land than NYC, but NYC makes much better use of its land. Like another poster said, Houston would have to just keep annexing more land for that to ever happen. A LOT more land. NYC finds new ways to build and further density on land it already has, and the way NYC is built allows for that density. Sunbelt cities do not.
So, I've done extensive research on the actual development of New York City. Not an exact apples to apples comparison but NYC was created in 1624 and Houston in 1836. Houston, at age 181 is light years ahead of where NYC was, in terms of the built environment, in the same age (1805). Central Park was still 60+ years away, most of the land around it anyway was underdeveloped sprawl wasteland and obviously the great mass transit system was WAYS off. Europeans routinely wrote articles how dumpy NYC was and that it would NEVER match the charm of European cities. See the ironic similarities.
Let's say we look at NYC at age around age 250...There were still major areas of Manhattan where living conditions were so third-world like that they would have to be condemned..i.e. Five Points. The Five Points was nothing more than a district built on top of a dumping pond that had been filled in anyway...what's wrong with that..right?
Let's look at NYC at around age 275-300, again today's infrastructure was just starting but NYC had areas that were extremely sub-standard. The living conditions in the dumbbell tenements was so dangerous that it forced entire building codes to change.
So, do we really want to take a snap shot of where Houston is today, or do we want to acknowledge that perhaps Houston and Chicago (I'd add Miami also) are among the fastest growing developed cities the world has ever seen. Their growth has been nothing short of miraculous.
Here's the thing that most non-Houstonians can't grasp...Houston is destined to be a monster! Yes...an urban city-loving type monster..it is happening. Forget the suburbs...I'm talking about the Inner Loop + Uptown.
Every single day, it continues to add density and urbanize. Downtown is adding residential towers at such an alarming clip that even I have lost count. I've been watching it with my own 2 eyes.
Come on down...I'd be happy to give you a tour.
We just hosted the Super Bowl and I heard many out of town media members (people who spend their whole lives traveling) say that downtown Houston reminded them of Chicago. Their words....That's the impression modern day Houston is leaving. Sure we've done things wrong in the past but the more I research other cities growth patterns , the more I appreciate what has happened here in Houston, Texas and how far ahead they are of every single major city, at their age, except for Chicago!
So, I've done extensive research on the actual development of New York City. Not an exact apples to apples comparison but NYC was created in 1624 and Houston in 1836. Houston, at age 181 is light years ahead of where NYC was, in terms of the built environment, in the same age (1805). Central Park was still 60+ years away, most of the land around it anyway was underdeveloped sprawl wasteland and obviously the great mass transit system was WAYS off. Europeans routinely wrote articles how dumpy NYC was and that it would NEVER match the charm of European cities. See the ironic similarities.
Let's say we look at NYC at age around age 250...There were still major areas of Manhattan where living conditions were so third-world like that they would have to be condemned..i.e. Five Points. The Five Points was nothing more than a district built on top of a dumping pond that had been filled in anyway...what's wrong with that..right?
Let's look at NYC at around age 275-300, again today's infrastructure was just starting but NYC had areas that were extremely sub-standard. The living conditions in the dumbbell tenements was so dangerous that it forced entire building codes to change.
So, do we really want to take a snap shot of where Houston is today, or do we want to acknowledge that perhaps Houston and Chicago (I'd add Miami also) are among the fastest growing developed cities the world has ever seen. Their growth has been nothing short of miraculous.
Here's the thing that most non-Houstonians can't grasp...Houston is destined to be a monster! Yes...an urban city-loving type monster..it is happening. Forget the suburbs...I'm talking about the Inner Loop + Uptown.
Every single day, it continues to add density and urbanize. Downtown is adding residential towers at such an alarming clip that even I have lost count. I've been watching it with my own 2 eyes.
Come on down...I'd be happy to give you a tour.
We just hosted the Super Bowl and I heard many out of town media members (people who spend their whole lives traveling) say that downtown Houston reminded them of Chicago. Their words....That's the impression modern day Houston is leaving. Sure we've done things wrong in the past but the more I research other cities growth patterns , the more I appreciate what has happened here in Houston, Texas and how far ahead they are of every single major city, at their age, except for Chicago!
Ignore the haters. NYC, Chicago, LA residents are scared of Houston and its potential. Wait till Houston annexes South Padre. Our beaches will put LA and Miami's to shame.
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Ignore the haters. NYC, Chicago, LA residents are scared of Houston and its potential. Wait till Houston annexes South Padre. Our beaches will put LA and Miami's to shame.
Lmao! South Padre is only 368 miles away, but whatever, Houston!
Houston to be end largest city in America eventually?
That would be an embarrassment. Wouldn't want that city to be the first thing that comes to mind when people think of the US.
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and still have a ugly wooden power-line pole in fronts.