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Old 04-21-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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But they didn't say anything to what you are saying. He didn't say the Northeast is monolith and he didn't mention anything regarding their opinions of the South. I personally think, growing up in Virginia and Maryland and having lived in Atlanta and travelled throughout the South that we are definitely NOT the South. And yes you are correct, the South is more diverse then we give it credit for but the DMV area aligns more with its Northern compatriots.

Even John Kennedy during the 60's said DC was "a city with Northern Charm and Southern Efficiency".. And since then it's progressed more Northern in culture and I'm using DC as am example because it's South of BMore.
No, he didn't say it, but from the information gathered from posters on this forum, if you don't have what they consider to be enough italians, then you're not the northeast. There have been countless threads on one the matter. If you don't have enough Italians, Irish, Puerto Ricans, Polish and Jewish inhabitants, then you don't qualify.

Sounds pretty monolithic to me.

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Old 04-21-2017, 04:59 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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No, he didn't say it, but from the information gathered from posters on this forum, if you don't have what they consider to be enough italians, then you're not the northeast. There have been countless threads on one the matter. If you don't have enough Italians, Irish, Puerto Ricans, Polish and Jewish inhabitants, then you don't qualify.

Sounds pretty monolithic to me.

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Well, all I'm saying is what my perspective is, and it's a perspective that's probably shared by many, but certainly not all. I chose Italians as an example because I'm almost half Italian. I don't give much thought to the percentages of Jews or Puerto Ricans, for example. Likewise, I'm not sure that the typical person from the Northeast who's not Italian would give this much consideration.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:06 PM
 
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No, he didn't say it, but from the information gathered from posters on this forum, if you don't have what they consider to be enough italians, then you're not the northeast. There have been countless threads on one the matter. If you don't have enough Italians, Irish, Puerto Ricans, Polish and Jewish inhabitants, then you don't qualify.

Sounds pretty monolithic to me.

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That's a really old school way of thinking.... I'm thinking more in terms of voting patterns, education, per capita income etc.. modern day things.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:20 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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That's a really old school way of thinking.... I'm thinking more in terms of voting patterns, education, per capita income etc.. modern day things.
It is old school, sort of. Traditionally speaking, in some neighborhoods in various spots of the Northeast, if you weren't Italian or Irish, you were an outcast.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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It is old school, sort of. Traditionally speaking, in some neighborhoods in various spots of the Northeast, if you weren't Italian or Irish, you were an outcast.
That was the same case here in Baltimore when it was considered southern.

" The city was flush with waves of immigration—from abroad as well as the South—and more affluent blacks were leaving the older, poorer neighborhoods to move to predominantly white areas removed from the poverty and joblessness of the crowded slums. In short order, politicians and progressive reformers—motivated by benevolence, politics, and an en vogue scientific racism—endorsed segregation plans and racial covenants meant to cordon blacks—as well as Italian and Eastern European immigrants—on to small parts of land in the inner city."

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/04

/baltimore_s_failure_is_rooted_in_its_segregationis t_past_the_city_s_black.html

same for the Irish
http://teaching.msa.maryland.gov/000...html/t131.html

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Old 04-21-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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The was the same case here in Baltimore when it was considered southern.
When it "WAS", as you just stated
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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When it "WAS", as you just stated
I phrased it wrong, you got me.

I meant when Baltimore was considered southern by EVERYONE.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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That's a really old school way of thinking.... I'm thinking more in terms of voting patterns, education, per capita income etc.. modern day things.
So would this mean a place like Raleigh/Durham is Northern while a place like Buffalo isn't?
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:33 PM
 
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So would this mean a place like Raleigh/Durham is Northern while a place like Buffalo isn't?
Yes because culture are diverging more urban vs rural!
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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I phrased it wrong, you got me.

I meant when Baltimore was considered southern by EVERYONE.
As far as I know they used to refer to Maryland as one of the middle colonies.
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