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Old 05-26-2017, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Dallas - Fort Worth, definitely. It's not so much a city vs. city issue. More like a city vs. suburb issue. I'm sure you'll have a few Fort Worth posters chiming in and saying it's a "Fort Worth vs. Dallas" issue, but it's really not to the degree of polarization like Plano/Frisco/Addison/Irving/Arlington (suburbs) VS. Dallas/Fort Worth (cities). Arlington has got to be the most revolting suburb we have, IMO. Irving is also embarrassing on the national level.

Have you been to Grand Prairie?
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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North Dallas including the part of Dallas just north of Dallas is predominantly white with a few Indian and East Asian plurality areas. East and West of Dallas is a lot more mixed between Latino, White, Black and South of Dallas is a lot more Black and many of the suburbs are majority black or have a large minority.

Atlanta though is literally North white with some Asian, Black and Latino spots while South Atlanta is predomm African American.

The most racially polarized region though is Birmingham, the entire city of Birmingham and the suburbs north, west and SW are black. While east, South and NE are white and it isn't literally a line that divides. Their is a racial dot map website that shows this divisions.
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Old 05-27-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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Chicago's segregation is more complicated than people think. The North Side (save Lakeview) is far from lily-white. Most of the desirable north side neighborhoods are no more than 50% white. That said, most people from the North Side almost never venture to the South or West Side (although some would argue) that Bucktown and Wicker Park are West Side neighborhoods.

Pittsburgh is divided by rivers...seriously, most people in this town will NOT cross a river unless they absolutely have to.
The Northside(east of the river) averages at 62% white non-Hispanic out of 479k people within 20 sq miles, based on calculations I've done for eight community areas. Community areas such as Lincoln Park, North Center, and Lakeview are above the average at 77-82% white, and these three are often considered the cream of crop for the Northside. These are also the first three 'hoods that one see upon entering from downtown or the southside, thus giving it a more homogeneous white enclave than actually is. On the flip side, community areas such as Uptown and Edgewater are below 60% white, with Lincoln Square being at the average. Further north, you have Rogers Park and West Ridge that are both minority-majority communities.
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Old 05-27-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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When I grew up in Detroit, you could walk from across just one street and go from a neighborhood that's all black to one that's all white. Like some invisible fence existed. Now when I return to my old home, it's not as bad as some Black families seemed to move in but it's still highly segregated.

I don't have enough experience with Chicago and Milwaukee to make a comment but those cities often top the lists for most segregated cities in the USA.

When I was growing up, people rarely entered Detroit and when they did, it was kind of a "I'm holding my nose" thing. There was a very me vs us mentality in the suburbs and the city. This mentality destroyed Detroit and by extension the whole region because it's hard to attract new talent to the region when your central city is in shambles. For whatever reason the Black folk in Detroit never could make it a prosperous place.

Now I hear it's gentrifying in areas, but it will take a lot to gentrify.

All US cities I've been to have been segregated to some regard, but Detroit has been the most segregated in my experience.
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Old 05-28-2017, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Land of Ill Noise
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The Northside(east of the river) averages at 62% white non-Hispanic out of 479k people within 20 sq miles, based on calculations I've done for eight community areas. Community areas such as Lincoln Park, North Center, and Lakeview are above the average at 77-82% white, and these three are often considered the cream of crop for the Northside. These are also the first three 'hoods that one see upon entering from downtown or the southside, thus giving it a more homogeneous white enclave than actually is. On the flip side, community areas such as Uptown and Edgewater are below 60% white, with Lincoln Square being at the average. Further north, you have Rogers Park and West Ridge that are both minority-majority communities.
I knew Rogers Park was majority minority, but didn't realize West Ridge had gotten below 50% white. If that's true, interesting. Not that I care either way, since I trust the Census' data myself. I always got that sense it did have a white majority, if just very barely. Ah well, probably just don't check Census data as closely as others do. And I could tell things were changing in that neighborhood vs. just a few decades back, so in a way it wouldn't surprise me if now it had become majority minority there.
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Old 05-28-2017, 07:44 PM
 
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That is not remotely true at all we have a lot of middle eastern and Latino people.

And another tidbit...

Nashville has the largest Kurdish population in the U.S.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_population
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles-Houston-DFW
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For whatever reason the Black folk in Detroit never could make it a prosperous place.
Really....
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Have you been to Grand Prairie?
They know they suck. Arlington likes to pretend they are a major city. It's basically just a suburb that houses the toys of Dallas and Fort Worth.
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Old 05-29-2017, 01:24 AM
 
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They know they suck. Arlington likes to pretend they are a major city. It's basically just a suburb that houses the toys of Dallas and Fort Worth.
Yep pretty much. I don't like the toys being housed in Arlington. But at the same time, we shouldn't be wasting taxpayer $$$ to lure those toys away from Arlington. Why can't they follow the Mark Cuban model? Who wants to fly into DFW, travel to the practice field in Frisco, and then watch a game in Arlington? It's absurd as hell.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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Really....
Yup, that's the truth. Does it offend you?

Since the riots, Detroit became progressively Blacker until maybe the last decade. Now it's sort of gentrifying, and recovering a bit.

However, under Black leadership, Detroit tanked and became poorer. During the 70s and 80s Detroit was a beacon for young professional Blacks around the country as it was considered a city run by Blacks and for Blacks. Whites wanted no part of the city, they left, took their money with them and businesses and reestablished themselves in suburban communities.

Now Detroit is hemorrhaging Blacks as the city doesn't function the way it should. Public Services are lacking, most of the city is just blight. From what I understand, a lot of Detroit's Black population is either heading for the suburbs or Atlanta.

If they could have made Detroit even a stable working-class area, it would not have become the butt of jokes that it became. But instead Detroit has been synonymous with crime and urban blight.

That's the reality, sometimes reality is sad. But it's still reality. Smacking yourself on the head and trying to pretend things are different only does yourself a disservice.
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