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Old 05-07-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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Phoenix, AZ
The NEW great American city.
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Old 05-07-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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I agree with the OP - Chicago (I'm biased). My reason is that it can be nothing other than American. The people, the culture, the Midwest setting, the cornfields beyond the city, the the meltingpot of immigrants, the Native American names, the river and lake, the mansions on the North Shore and the slums on the Southside, the trains snaking out in all directions... It encompasses so much that is distinctly American. 'There are lovelier lovelies, but never a lovely so real.' DC and NYC are undoubtably great American cities but they retained a European influence that Chicago abandoned. LA is distinctly American in another way, but feels more globalist than Chicago. SF is SF - it's another planet. Thank God we have so many fantastic cities in one country and don't have to choose.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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I agree with the OP - Chicago (I'm biased). My reason is that it can be nothing other than American. The people, the culture, the Midwest setting, the cornfields beyond the city, the the meltingpot of immigrants, the Native American names, the river and lake, the mansions on the North Shore and the slums on the Southside, the trains snaking out in all directions... It encompasses so much that is distinctly American. 'There are lovelier lovelies, but never a lovely so real.' DC and NYC are undoubtably great American cities but they retained a European influence that Chicago abandoned. LA is distinctly American in another way, but feels more globalist than Chicago. SF is SF - it's another planet. Thank God we have so many fantastic cities in one country and don't have to choose.
I agree. Chicago planned its own city thy did not strive to be NYC. No tenements or it as it rebuilt fom its Great Fire. Separated housing too strongly preferred with required set-backs for green-space.

NYC built a much more tightly built urban form in the US. Philly chose a tight urban form using single tow-housing. But low-scale compared to NYC's tenements for its masses. Chicago chose neither. Before its bungalow-belt began. Chicago was using mostly detached Victorians and greystone varieties along with the Workers Cottage for its masses.

By the time its Bungalow-belt took over in 1910. The Frank Lloyd Wright inspired brick bungalow would become standard. Tight-knit city lots with
- a front lawn and smallish back yard if garages got built
- with standard alleys the city built with and all part of its street-grid planned.
- a standard set-back of housing for green-space.

LA at the same time did its bungalow version too. Philly stayed with rows as a European inspired concept. But Boston went to its Triple-Decker's unique to it. Chicago's 2-3 flat homes were its comparable style.

So Chicago's standard set-backs for green-frontage. Was a American concept for a city. Its choice of lower-scale housing and full Alleyway Network that was more then a walkway. Also was a American concept.

It not merely as a GREATEST CITY Chicago could be declared by far? But if the standard is MOST AMERICAN IN BUILT FORM AND HOUSING VARIETIES? Then Chico surely could claim a title for Great American City. Stressing in American in design and built environment. Add its Core downtown that began the skyscraper.....

Yes it surely can deserve a win.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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The correct answer is Eugene, Oregon.


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Old 05-12-2017, 12:19 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Well the OP kinda lost me when he claimed Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders and Rahm Emanuel were a source of pride. Chicago is known for radical politics which I DO NOT consider a good thing. And now Chicago has some of the highest homicide and violent crime rates in the country.

I would consider Dallas-Fort Worth, Atlanta, and Charlotte to be extremely successful cities with a lot of economic growth, good quality of life (for a big city) and all these places also have decent food and culture.
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:20 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I agree with the OP - Chicago (I'm biased). My reason is that it can be nothing other than American. The people, the culture, the Midwest setting, the cornfields beyond the city, the the meltingpot of immigrants, the Native American names, the river and lake, the mansions on the North Shore and the slums on the Southside, the trains snaking out in all directions... It encompasses so much that is distinctly American. 'There are lovelier lovelies, but never a lovely so real.' DC and NYC are undoubtably great American cities but they retained a European influence that Chicago abandoned. LA is distinctly American in another way, but feels more globalist than Chicago. SF is SF - it's another planet. Thank God we have so many fantastic cities in one country and don't have to choose.
I'd say that Columbus, Ohio is probably the most quintessential American city. Just the feeling I got from visiting there. Also Kansas City, Charlotte, and Nashville.
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Old 05-12-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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The correct answer is Eugene, Oregon.


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Old 05-12-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Phoenix, AZ
The NEW great American city.
If you want to bake in an oven, it's great!
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Old 05-14-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Well the OP kinda lost me when he claimed Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders and Rahm Emanuel were a source of pride. Chicago is known for radical politics which I DO NOT consider a good thing. And now Chicago has some of the highest homicide and violent crime rates in the country.
Yep. My thoughts exactly!

I think the Chicago area is great in a lot of ways. It's political landscape is not a 'pro' in my opinion and one of the reasons why I could never seriously consider living there (besides the winters).

Most people really aren't radicals or ideologues when it comes to their politics. So, on that basis, I could never say that Chicago was the greatest American city because in this area, it really doesn't really represent where most Americans (on the Left and the Right) really are.

Especially because Chicago is the entire reason why the state of Illinois is a solid blue state - and there's a lot of resentment in the rest of the state because of this.

I think the Great American city should be more of a "purple" city, not exclusively "red or blue", but one that actually strives to represent everyone. (Isn't that supposed to be the ideal?)

I can understand that most cities trend blue because of the sheer number of people and places that need managing. However, not all Americans live in cities, nor do they share the same values as the modern political Left. And our intellectual and political diversity is one of the huge reasons why a lot of love America. Dissent is welcome - regardless of whether it's against Trump or Obama or Bush or Clinton.

I'm not sure what city I would name as the greatest, but it's not Chicago. I tend to lean towards the MidWest or West for the location of that city. (But not LA or SF or Seattle - again, Leftist politics aren't shared by 50% of the country.....)

Just my thoughts....
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Old 05-14-2017, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I thought New York City had grown to the greatest since like the 1700s.
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