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Old 05-31-2017, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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The house they live in is definitely below the median, is small and is on a through street (Trask Ave) and just below the 22 Freeway, right near the Garden Grove city limit, so I'm sure their house is worth less than $450k. They've lived in the house for at least 30 years
That last sentence explains it all. If theyve lived there for 30 years, thats why they are there. If they made less than 100k and tried to buy a 450k house, it would mean years upon years of saving.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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No, California is not the best state in the U.S.A. in my opinion. California ca. 1910 may have been, but modern day California has been ruined by the massive influx of people from other places (that includes and mostly refers to white U.S. citizens from other states, BTW, just so that I don't get labeled any kind of "-phobe") that took place over much of the 20th century. I can imagine that LA was absolutely pristine back before the population explosion, not so much today, and much of the rest of it is just average if not unimpressive. San Diego is beautiful, but like most of CA, far too expensive for average Americans to afford and the traffic is horrendous.
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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There are vast swaths of California that are thinly populated, full of far right loons, not expensive, and have relatively low levels of dirt and only minimal amounts of violence, and these areas are still bigger than many states.

Of course they have no economy and get up to 115 degrees in the summer, so...

California State Senate election map. The recent presidential election map is even redder.
Orange County went blue in 2016. Even the Republican loons knew that Trump would be a disaster
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Near L.A.
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Right wing politics didn't lead a state to care more about illegal foreigners than it's own citizens. Thats a different discussion though.

It's "sad" because it was probably, as a conservative, the only part of the state I would feel comfortable living in because it wasn't filled with a bunch of hardcore "tolerant" leftists.
I get your point.

Although, I will say that I live in Orange County and it is in transition, albeit slowly, from red to blue. South Orange County will probably be red for another generation, but parts of north and central Orange County are on the precipice of being blue; Santa Ana has already gone blue.

I have lived in San Diego County, a county with similar political tendencies overall with Orange County (although it voted at a higher percentage for Hillary than OC), and didn't care for it at all--and I was decidedly conservative Carlsbad. I do think inland north SD County and east SD County will remain conservative for another generation, but coastal north SD County and the City of SD (even though it has a Republican mayor at the moment) have already gone blue.

Now, Sacramento is a left-leaning city, and Ventura County has become left-leaning in recent years. I would probably be comfortable living in either.

I enjoy L.A. and wouldn't object to living there for a couple of years if I needed to for work. The Bay Area is wonderful to visit, but the "hardcore 'tolerant' leftists" have ruined it more than any other region of the state; the pay rates for employment, even given its cost of living, still make the area understandably enticing for many.

Honestly, the best places in this state for conservatives at this point are probably Bakersfield, Fresno, Chico, Redding, Yreka, small farm towns in the Central Valley, places like those. And, Fresno/Fresno County and Chico/Butte County themselves are in slow transition from red to blue anyway, albeit at a slower pace than what is going on in Orange County and San Diego County.

I understand conservatives just throwing their hands up in the air and moving on to Arizona, Idaho, Nevada, or Texas. I, as a conservative, have thought about doing this more than a few times, although I'm especially drawn to New Mexico, whose sociopolitical equivalent in California would basically be San Diego County.

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Old 06-03-2017, 09:24 PM
 
Location: East of the Appaichans
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Kind of hard to answer...CA may be the best state for scenery and climate, with the highest mountain in the 48 states, lowest altitude in the entire continent, but perhaps the worst state to live in. With the super-high cost of living, gang violence, and terrible state politics, especially in the highly populated areas, I probably rather live in North Dakota than in California.
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Old 06-03-2017, 09:26 PM
 
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lol no.
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:26 PM
 
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It's probably the most desirable state for the largest number of people, hence the large population, and shortage of housing. It has some of the nicest variation geography is the US, and some of the most beautiful scenery. It has a nice mix of urban, suburban, and rural areas It has a robust economy. So, I would say It's probably the best.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:21 PM
 
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Some of the most deadly earthquake zones too, worst homeless problem, and worst pollution in the country, very nice indeed.
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Some of the most deadly earthquake zones too, worst homeless problem, and worst pollution in the country, very nice indeed.
Please get those thoughts out there to as many people as possible!! We don't need more people moving here since it's overcrowded as it is, and the areas that are rural need to stay that way to keep the farmland that feeds all of you!
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:30 AM
 
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It's probably the most desirable state for the largest number of people, hence the large population, and shortage of housing. It has some of the nicest variation geography is the US, and some of the most beautiful scenery. It has a nice mix of urban, suburban, and rural areas It has a robust economy. So, I would say It's probably the best.
I don't completely disagree, but do you basically just rank desirable states by their population? I'd I remember correctly, most the nation requires more homes, so that isn't exclusive to the state.
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