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Old 08-04-2017, 12:59 AM
 
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I mean what other state comes close ?

California has the highest quality of life and the 7th highest economy in the world.
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Old 08-04-2017, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I mean what other state comes close ?

California has the highest quality of life and the 7th highest economy in the world.
The only argument against it is political. Well, besides the fact many people can no longer afford to (comfortably) live there, because it's a great place to live but really, really hard to leave.
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Old 08-04-2017, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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The only argument against it is political. Well, besides the fact many people can no longer afford to (comfortably) live there, because it's a great place to live but really, really hard to leave.
And thats just it.

If money is no object, of course California has the best standard of living in the country.

If money is an object, Californian wouldnt rank in my top 10.

I grew up in LA and COL is the sole reason I left. Why would I scrape and scrounge to live in Ontario when I can live like a king in Houston?
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Old 08-04-2017, 09:14 AM
 
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California only makes sense if you're upper middle class & above or really poor. Everyone in between would live a FAR better life in more affordable places where it's easier to work for yourself and with lots of blue collar jobs. Which is why CA has a shrinking middle class.
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: DFW
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California could be one of the best states. It has it all. Great climate, scenery, the shoreline, agriculture, etc. Unfortunately, it has been ruined by the liberal/progressives, and turned into a socialist hell hole. I will never live there again.
I'm a moderate and i agree 100%
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Nashville TN, Cincinnati, OH
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California only makes sense if you're upper middle class & above or really poor. Everyone in between would live a FAR better life in more affordable places where it's easier to work for yourself and with lots of blue collar jobs. Which is why CA has a shrinking middle class.
I totally agree I feel like California is becoming one of those countries where they only have rich and poor like Brazil. California is the best place to live if you have a net worth over 10 million like a lot of the actors, producers and directors. For the average Joe not worth it.
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:53 AM
 
Location: 352
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Best state? No, nope. But it's in that top tier for sure.
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Old 08-05-2017, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Downtown & Brooklyn!
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State lines are pretty arbitrary IMO. Outside of a few things like politics and taxes, I don't think State borders really matter as much as people on here make it seem. They're pretty much just imaginary lines in most cases (excluding Hawaii). I live in NYC and places like Niagara Falls, Buffalo, Albany, etc. are a completely different world to me and it doesn't really matter to me at all that I live in the State with those places since they are so far away and they mean nothing to me. Being in the same State as those places has zero effect on my life at all (again: politics aside).
I'm much more familiar and likely to identify with most places in NJ and even Connecticut before anywhere else in New York State. I think I'd have more in common with people from Jersey City than I would with somebody from Plattsburgh, NY. I'm a New Yorker (the city) first and a New Yorker (the State) second.

LA and San Francisco for example are well over 300 miles apart. I'm pretty sure the distance between NYC and Montreal in Canada is closer than that (but comparable). Same thing can be said about parts of Texas since it's even larger than CA.

It probably depends on where you live though. I think cities that are located directly on State borders and/or have metros that pass multiple State lines like NYC, DC, and Philly probably care less about State lines. Out West people seem to care about States a lot more. The biggest examples being California and Texas.
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Old 08-05-2017, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Downtown & Brooklyn!
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The problem with the above is the intent if the united STATES was that states were to matter the most, and the Federal government a distant third behind the states, and local governments. In that way, THE PEOPLE would be closest to those that try to rule them, and could readily do something about it. Not some far away, insulted, centralized government like we have now where the people do not matter. As a native Philadelphian who now lives in the PA burbs, I have NOTHING in common with the laws, nor attitudes of those in New Jersey. Nothing.
Yeah there are political aspects to it and I said I was specifically excluding politics though.
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Old 08-05-2017, 05:02 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yeah there are political aspects to it and I said I was specifically excluding politics though.
My apologies, I will delete my post.
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