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Old 08-12-2017, 09:17 PM
 
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Well, with such a high cost of living, I would not even consider it. That means my hard-earned dollars don't mean as much.
I like how you just brush aside politics, as if that is irrelevant.
Most advanced---REALLY!
Pay what you weigh sir.

The same holds true for NYC,
Overcrowded, high cost of living, you are what you can afford.

Obviously 40 million people could care less.
Not trying to sound arrogant but I've traveled the country and no other state besides Florida comes close
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:20 PM
 
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When you say "best", I think what you mean "highest growth rate". I don't want to live in CA of FL. In fact I know another person that would live anywhere except FL.

Also, when you say "highest quality of life" you probably mean "highest cost of living".
No i literally mean best state, highest quality of life in U.S
Gorgeous women everywhere
Nice beaches
Palm trees
Top notch weather
Most diverse scenery,mountains, desert, city life,
outdoor activities ,great food, i mean i could list 100 more things
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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No i literally mean best state, highest quality of life in U.S
Gorgeous women everywhere
Nice beaches
Palm trees
Top notch weather
Most diverse scenery,mountains, desert, city life,
outdoor activities ,great food, i mean i could list 100 more things
OK, but at what cost? I agree, CA has a lot to offer. But the government is struggling to pay the bills, and if you don't have a great job, it is not anywhere near reasonable to live there. Highest quality of life in US depends on more than palm trees and weather.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:55 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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OK, but at what cost? I agree, CA has a lot to offer. But the government is struggling to pay the bills, and if you don't have a great job, it is not anywhere near reasonable to live there. Highest quality of life in US depends on more than palm trees and weather.
It's the 5th or 6th (depending on the day, with Great Britain) largest economy in the world. That it has pension liability issues as many other states doesn't change that, it challenges it, but it doesn't cripple an entity with this entrenched, powerful status. If you are amongst the educated professional class making the great salaries that this state's job sector provides, then in all likelihood you can afford to be a part of this great state's leadership and mission that it has laid out. And so too can a state with this huge economy and its unique Human Resources can also affect change where it feels it needs to

That there are millions of people who are struggling to pay there bills here only speaks to the larger issue of income inequality and corporate structure that one state cannot resolve but acknowledge that there is a draw here that cannot be denied and relates specifically to the huge population of this state.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:23 AM
 
Location: PNW
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A lot of the Western states have beautiful scenery that probably rivals anything you can see in CA.
I only know NM politics, not CA politics so I can't comment.
Well, California has the coastal range. On the other hand, northern Arizona has a lot of unique historical landmarks and the Saguaro wilderness. I haven't seen New Mexico - yet.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:57 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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California is one of three best states, the triumvirate: California, Florida, and Texas.
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Old 08-13-2017, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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15 American Cities with the Worst Air Pollution

Looks like it's the most polluted....lots of cars and people will do that.
You should have seen it about 35 years ago. Much worse.

Views like this were much less common back then; now are typical.

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Old 08-13-2017, 09:09 AM
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Location: Ontario
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...which falls under politics.

I think you're misunderstanding my point. Right, State lines are important when it comes to law/politics and taxes, which I didn't forget. Actually I specifically stated that, and you even quoted me

Where it's arbitrary is if I live in NYC for example, and I say that I love living in NY State because we have Niagara Falls or something like that. That's 400 miles away! Same thing can be said about LA and SF, or Reno to Las Vegas.

OTOH, let's say I want to go hiking in New Jersey Palisades. It's in another State, but directly across the bridge from NYC. You can walk there from Manhattan.
Most of NJ, CT, and even part of PA have more to do with where I live than the majority of NY State.
Good point, living in a state like New York you have many other states nearby to go to,
just a short drive away, even Canada.

New Jersey is next door, CT, VT, RI, MA, PA, DE, VA, DC, NH, MD, etc....

California.....there's Arizona, Nevada, and Oregon as your neighbors.
But depending where you are, they are far away.
Mexico is also a possibilty, but only if you are in SoCal.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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As a CA native, who has traveled all over the US and world, it's certainly a great state, but far from perfect. There are plenty of other places I could call home. But, I stay by choice as I have many friends and family here.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:53 PM
 
Location: 130 Miles E of Sacramento
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If I was an adult and able to experience it back in the 80s and 90s, I would vote yes. Now, I give it a big fat no.
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