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Old 08-21-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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Overall, no. If it were, then so many residents and businesses wouldn't be fleeing California in droves and tripping all over each other trying to move to other states. And in the cities and states that Californians flock to in droves, they generally end up changing them to the point where many locals don't even want to live there anymore. Either that, or the locals reluctantly get priced/forced out by the Californians who fled their "perfect" state.
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Old 08-23-2017, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and wherever planes fly
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Coming from North Carolina also a beautiful state highest mountain on the east coast and beautiful coastlines (The most beautiful states have both mountains and coastlines point blank so the states in the middle could never compete)

California geographically is the winner hands down. the fact that you could be surfing in San Diego and a few hours later skiing is remarkable. The microclimates, the vistas the culture. The weather is awesome! It really is like it's own country by far the most unique of the 50 continental united states. The cost is not for most people and the goverment and liberalism isnt for everyone. But just off of locality it's no contest.

Runners up

Washington
Oregon
Texas
North Carolina
Virginia (horrid government)
Colorado
Wyoming
Minnesota
Arkansas and Missouri (for the waterless states)
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Coming from North Carolina also a beautiful state highest mountain on the east coast and beautiful coastlines (The most beautiful states have both mountains and coastlines point blank so the states in the middle could never compete)

California geographically is the winner hands down. the fact that you could be surfing in San Diego and a few hours later skiing is remarkable. The microclimates, the vistas the culture. The weather is awesome! It really is like it's own country by far the most unique of the 50 continental united states. The cost is not for most people and the goverment and liberalism isnt for everyone. But just off of locality it's no contest.

Runners up

Washington
Oregon
Texas
North Carolina
Virginia (horrid government)
Colorado
Wyoming
Minnesota
Arkansas and Missouri (for the waterless states)
There's a reason many refer to California as a "Nation State." Because it really feels that way. With a population of 39,500,000, four of the largest metro area in the country are in California....Los Angeles, metro population 17,775,000, San Francisco, metro population 7,225,000, San Diego, metro population 3,000,000, and Sacramento, metro Population 2,225,000.

Cultural, educational, economic, and leisure opportunities abound. Bordering the Pacific Ocean to the west, the California coastline is a thing of beauty, and the states soaring mountains, and breathtaking Yosemite National Park, are second to none.

Needless to say, I'll take California.
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Old 09-18-2017, 01:28 AM
 
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But now we're just arguing about lines on a map. Is San Francisco more connected to LA than Philly or New York to DC.
No it's not but that's what makes California so great.

Two different powerhouses sharing the same state.
Different culture,different climate and different atmosphere.

San Diego is about the same hours away from L.A as Philly is to New York but the connection feels the same because it's still Southern California.

When you step into Northern California, you still feel it's California but just a different region.
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Old 09-18-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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It was until everybody starting moving there...now it's a liberal, overcrowded, highly taxed mess.
This.

If it wasn't so lavishly overpriced, it would be indisputably the best for me.

NYC as a city used to give Cali a run for its money, but has now also become overpriced, and corporate.

As far as for what I look for, NJ would be a close competitor. It is also expensive, but there are parts that are not as expensive.
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Old 09-18-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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No it's not but that's what makes California so great.

Two different powerhouses sharing the same state.
Different culture,different climate and different atmosphere.

San Diego is about the same hours away from L.A as Philly is to New York but the connection feels the same because it's still Southern California.

When you step into Northern California, you still feel it's California but just a different region.
So Different culture,different climate and different atmosphere.

Got it
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Coming from North Carolina also a beautiful state highest mountain on the east coast and beautiful coastlines (The most beautiful states have both mountains and coastlines point blank so the states in the middle could never compete)

California geographically is the winner hands down. the fact that you could be surfing in San Diego and a few hours later skiing is remarkable. The microclimates, the vistas the culture. The weather is awesome! It really is like it's own country by far the most unique of the 50 continental united states. The cost is not for most people and the goverment and liberalism isnt for everyone. But just off of locality it's no contest.

Runners up

Washington
Oregon
Texas
North Carolina
Virginia (horrid government)
Colorado
Wyoming
Minnesota
Arkansas and Missouri (for the waterless states)
Many landlocked states have considerable miles of frontage along large lakes or rivers which are often very scenic and suitable for recreation, so the term "waterless" is a bit misleading. Tennessee would be a great example, especially in the eastern part of the state.
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Old 09-18-2017, 04:38 PM
 
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So Different culture,different climate and different atmosphere.

Got it

Yes the diversity of California is bar none.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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The staying power of this thread is incredible.
You can say that again, mate. I come back every week to this forum and see this thread floating on the front page at least half way down. All because I am an inquisitive Brit wanting to hear opinions on California. Keep it coming though, I am really enjoying reading all the posts.

I need to get back and visit California again for an extended period so I can really explore the state, rather than just stick to LA, it's touristy areas and the beaches. My ultimate goal is to live in California, but if not California than Oregon or New Mexico. Does anybody here live in New Mexico, and how does it compare to California?
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I do not like California, its government, its culture, nor its people.
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