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Old 06-01-2017, 02:39 PM
 
Location: 352
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I've been looking at a few cities. 3 candidates are Nashville, Charlotte, and Atlanta, and all 3 seem to be very comparable in terms of cost of living, yet Nashville keeps getting called expensive.

Judging by what I've seen online, Nashville's cost of living is at the national average, a whisker below Charlotte, yet Nashville keeps getting called "expensive" and Charlotte and Atlanta "affordable." So what gives?

I ask because when it comes to CD, I haven't been able to deduce when people bring up expense, are we considering everything: rent, utilities, taxes, food, health, gas and transit fare, entertainment, shopping, insurance, parking, etc? Or are we just referring to rent and homes?

Nashville's cost of living in general is at the national average. Home prices and rent are higher than normal, but everything else looks to be at or below the average. I know you can't take these calculators as gospel as everyones personal situation is different and things vary depending on what part of town youre in, but still. What dollar ranges are we talking for these cities?

Are people calling Nashville and other cities expensive because luxury apartments with $1400 1BR's are being built, or because people really can't live comfortably in the city in general?

Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, Nashville, and most other growing cities in the country are all having big increases in rent, but all 4 still seem very affordable by everything I've seen online and heard from others.

I've seen people say the Texas cities are expensive now as well, but only bring up the rising rents. So when it comes to CD, are we calling cities expensive because America is Monaco now and the national average is high, or do we have tunnel vision on this site when it comes to the rent and home prices?

San Francisco has some people making $100K a year and they still need roommates. Now that's obviously expensive living, but does Houston truly fit the expensive moniker? After all it was named the metro where your paycheck can stretch the furthest.
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Old 06-01-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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I think the term "expensive" is somewhat relative. Depends on how much money you make and where you come from. Coming from D.C most places honestly seem cheap. I don't think $1400 a month is all that much these days.
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Old 06-01-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: 352
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I totally agree it's relative. My question is when we call cities expensive here, are we doing so because of the overall COL, or because of current rent prices? I dont see how Nashville can keep getting called expensive by quite a few people when the COL online says its near the average and comparable with Charlotte and other southern peers.
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Old 06-01-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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I totally agree it's relative. My question is when we call cities expensive here, are we doing so because of the overall COL, or because of current rent prices? I dont see how Nashville can keep getting called expensive by quite a few people when the COL online says its near the average and comparable with Charlotte and other southern peers.
To someone coming from a small town in the Midwest Nashville would seem expensive, to someone coming from Cali, D.C or NYC it would seem dirt cheap. I think the reason people call Nashville and other similar areas expensive is because a lot of the new urban apartments have high rent and these places are becoming more desirable and trendy, which is driving prices up. I also think a lot of people expect Nashville and Charlotte to be dirt cheap and are surprised when they find out they aren't.
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Old 06-01-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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If you can find an apartment for between $700-1,000 or a house for between $1,000-1,500 a month and not live in the ghetto, that's affordable. Affordable is can you be a medium wage ($10-15 an hour) blue collar worker and live comfortably without living in the projects.
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Old 06-01-2017, 04:24 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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In many states, counties within the same metro area can have widely differing tax rates especially sales and property taxes. So where in the metro area you live can affect perceptions too.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Naples Island
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For me personally, "expensive" is >$1,500 for a standard 1-bed/1-bath apartment in a safe, non-ghetto area.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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If you can find an apartment for between $700-1,000 or a house for between $1,000-1,500 a month and not live in the ghetto, that's affordable. Affordable is can you be a medium wage ($10-15 an hour) blue collar worker and live comfortably without living in the projects.
Bingo. The millennial trendy fad that has swept the country for the last 10 years destroyed the number of affordable neighborhoods in Top 10 list cities. People can either afford the desirable high end neighborhoods or suck it up and settle for declining neighborhoods or move out to the country.

There was a thread a while back on Nashville and the negative effects of suddenly being popular. Being the "hot" city will bring growth but then that growth will end up pushing out the middle class.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:00 PM
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Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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People might say Nashville is 'expensive' because it's more expensive than it was five years ago, or because it's more expensive than other TN cities. To me expensive/affordable has a lot more to do with how big of a bite are the basics when taken out of your paycheck, it's not something you can base on flat numbers. Whether $1400 for rent is expensive or not depends a whole lot on a bunch of other factors.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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If rents seem out of reach compared to your income, that equals expensive.
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