U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-04-2017, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
6,575 posts, read 7,248,819 times
Reputation: 3674

Advertisements

Thanks for humoring me.

As odd as it might be, I have come to realize that for my wife and I, our priorities for a neighborhood overwhelmingly boil down to walkability/vibrancy and Asian food. Most Asian cities work well for us (and we've long considered several of them for relocation) as do all the major Canadian cities. Obviously you've got your NYC/SF/LA and other top tier cities that we love very much, but I'm always wondering if there are some smaller gems that we've overlooked or just aren't as familiar with. So if you know of any vibrant+walkable areas that also have great Asian food but may not be front and center or in the top 10 US cities, please share here.

My thoughts:
I think Houston has some amazing Asian cuisine, but the epicenter for this is far from vibrant or walkable. Dallas, Atlanta and Sacramento are pretty decent but they seem to have the same issue...good Asian areas aren't walkable at all. New Orleans? Mayyyybe with Vietnamese cuisine, but imo it wouldn't make the cut. Orlando has a semi-walkable stretch of E Colonial that is pretty borderline. I think the food is good enough and by my definition it is walkable, but not vibrant. If it was better connected to downtown then maybe. Jury's still out on MSP...I've had some decent enough Asian food there but not enough to really say for sure. Places like Phoenix, Detroit, Denver and Charlotte I just haven't spent much time in so I wonder about those (I have a hunch the first two have good Asian food while the latter two perhaps not) Las Vegas has some great Asian food but is it particularly walkable/vibrant away from the Strip?? Or this could just come down to which is most affordable among Seattle, Portland, Chicago and Philly. Anyway, look forward to hearing new thoughts and perspectives, thanks!!

TL;DR

Not seeking the most vibrant, most walkable, or best Asian food. Just adequately vibrant, adequately walkable areas with good Asian food (however you define those terms) which is the most affordable??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-04-2017, 04:17 AM
 
7,974 posts, read 4,850,716 times
Reputation: 8726
Uptown, Chicago. Very walkable, urban and vibrant, and you can easily find a 2br condo under 200k.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 07:10 AM
 
21,588 posts, read 31,272,207 times
Reputation: 20360
Cleveland has a fairly vibrant Chinatown neighborhood east of Downtown, south of the lake and just north of Cleveland State University's campus and Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians stadium). It's in the midst of a bit of a renaissance with new construction residential sales/rentals and renovation of older historic properties too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 09:33 AM
 
58,735 posts, read 83,334,998 times
Reputation: 12910
Perhaps look into college towns with a high Asian percentage. For instance, Ithaca NY is about 17% Asian and it has a walkable Downtown/Commons that has quite a bit going on for its size.

There's the Champaign/Urbana area of IL where the 2 cities have about 125,000 people and combined would be about 15% Asian.

Ann Arbor MI is similar in terms of being 15% Asian out of about 118,000 people.

So, that may be another thing to consider.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 09:56 AM
 
1,325 posts, read 1,181,164 times
Reputation: 2252
Dinkytown in Minneapolis (the UofM campus area) has some great Vietnamese places.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
6,575 posts, read 7,248,819 times
Reputation: 3674
Quote:
Originally Posted by gladhands View Post
Uptown, Chicago. Very walkable, urban and vibrant, and you can easily find a 2br condo under 200k.
Yes!! I have spent many days on Argyle.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kyle19125 View Post
Cleveland has a fairly vibrant Chinatown neighborhood east of Downtown, south of the lake and just north of Cleveland State University's campus and Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians stadium). It's in the midst of a bit of a renaissance with new construction residential sales/rentals and renovation of older historic properties too.
This is totally what I'm looking for. Nuggets like this. Thanks!! I feel STL "chinatown" may also have potential, although the Chinese numbers just aren't as strong there. Any insight?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ckhthankgod View Post
Perhaps look into college towns with a high Asian percentage. For instance, Ithaca NY is about 17% Asian and it has a walkable Downtown/Commons that has quite a bit going on for its size.

There's the Champaign/Urbana area of IL where the 2 cities have about 125,000 people and combined would be about 15% Asian.

Ann Arbor MI is similar in terms of being 15% Asian out of about 118,000 people.

So, that may be another thing to consider.
Nice suggestion. I've been to Ann Arbor and could definitely see that possibility. Never been to the other two. This made me think of my own college town, Gainesville, FL and what that looked like. Seems it was around 7% Asian at the 2010 census. But the thing is aside from several borderline examples, all of the great Asian restaurants (which honestly numbered less than 5) were not in the downtown or midtown (campus) areas. That is, not walkable at all. Perhaps Ithaca and Champaign-Urbana happen to have good Asian restaurants in the walkable areas??

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr roboto View Post
Dinkytown in Minneapolis (the UofM campus area) has some great Vietnamese places.
Yep. I ate at a few of these and think there's definitely potential.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
2,519 posts, read 2,311,275 times
Reputation: 2396
Quote:
Originally Posted by gladhands View Post
Uptown, Chicago. Very walkable, urban and vibrant, and you can easily find a 2br condo under 200k.
Uptown is becoming whiter as gentrification increases. If the OP is ok with that, then Uptown does fit the bill. Especially since the restaurants will likely stay, much like they did in Lakeview. If he wants a part of Chicago with a growing Asian population, then he could also look at Chinatown and the neighborhoods immediately surrounding it. The population is spilling over as Chinatown continues to grow.

Quote:
Originally Posted by projectmaximus View Post
This is totally what I'm looking for. Nuggets like this. Thanks!! I feel STL "chinatown" may also have potential, although the Chinese numbers just aren't as strong there. Any insight?
I just wanted to point out that St. Louis's "Chinatown" isn't in St. Louis. It's in University City, and it's essentially a stretch of businesses and restaurants on Olive. It's going to be more suburban than what you would find elsewhere, but it does exist. The city's original Chinatown was demolished to make way for the previous iteration of Busch Stadium in downtown.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 12:06 PM
 
Location: STL area
1,056 posts, read 546,159 times
Reputation: 2282
Quote:
Originally Posted by PerseusVeil View Post
Uptown is becoming whiter as gentrification increases. If the OP is ok with that, then Uptown does fit the bill. Especially since the restaurants will likely stay, much like they did in Lakeview. If he wants a part of Chicago with a growing Asian population, then he could also look at Chinatown and the neighborhoods immediately surrounding it. The population is spilling over as Chinatown continues to grow.



I just wanted to point out that St. Louis's "Chinatown" isn't in St. Louis. It's in University City, and it's essentially a stretch of businesses and restaurants on Olive. It's going to be more suburban than what you would find elsewhere, but it does exist. The city's original Chinatown was demolished to make way for the previous iteration of Busch Stadium in downtown.
It is expanding a bit into the loop area which is crossing the line into City limits now. There have been more Asian places popping up lately. Just had some great Thai food last night across from the Pageant. 2 bubble tea spots with one more coming in the loop. The traditional Chinese area on Olive has some great food but isn't as much a place where people live and walk. Expanding towards the Wash U campus made more sense. (We are a mixed family, love Asian food)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 01:49 PM
 
4,820 posts, read 2,934,728 times
Reputation: 4325
It can vary by what Asian cultures you're looking for. Or is the point to have all the major ones covered?

Chicago strikes me as a great combination of walkable and affordable. However the population figures aren't compelling.

Overall Chicago is not very Asian...6.0% in 2015, with Chinese, Indian, and Filipino being the only categories over 1%. Cook county was a hair above that.

Seattle is more expensive and not as dense, but was 14.2% Asian in 2015 with every major Census category over 1%, i.e. more coverage of various countries. King County was a hair above that.

Houston's numbers were close to Chicago's. Harris County was a hair above that.

Portland's percentages were 7.6%, with the majority of that being Chinese or Vietnamese. There's no mega-county to be an equivalent.

The college-town focus might be a smart idea, but that seems like plentiful cheap takeout vs. great sit-down places.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-04-2017, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
6,575 posts, read 7,248,819 times
Reputation: 3674
Quote:
Originally Posted by PerseusVeil View Post
Uptown is becoming whiter as gentrification increases. If the OP is ok with that, then Uptown does fit the bill. Especially since the restaurants will likely stay, much like they did in Lakeview. If he wants a part of Chicago with a growing Asian population, then he could also look at Chinatown and the neighborhoods immediately surrounding it. The population is spilling over as Chinatown continues to grow.

I just wanted to point out that St. Louis's "Chinatown" isn't in St. Louis. It's in University City, and it's essentially a stretch of businesses and restaurants on Olive. It's going to be more suburban than what you would find elsewhere, but it does exist. The city's original Chinatown was demolished to make way for the previous iteration of Busch Stadium in downtown.
Not specifically seeking an Asian population in the neighborhood, although certainly for the restaurants to be great and authentic there must be a supporting population somewhere in the region. Thanks for the STL info.

Quote:
Originally Posted by STL74 View Post
It is expanding a bit into the loop area which is crossing the line into City limits now. There have been more Asian places popping up lately. Just had some great Thai food last night across from the Pageant. 2 bubble tea spots with one more coming in the loop. The traditional Chinese area on Olive has some great food but isn't as much a place where people live and walk. Expanding towards the Wash U campus made more sense. (We are a mixed family, love Asian food)
Cool. It's been a long time since my last visit (8 years!!) and I have a good friend who lives there so I'm definitely long overdue. I hope I can make it back to check things out soon...

Quote:
Originally Posted by mhays25 View Post
It can vary by what Asian cultures you're looking for. Or is the point to have all the major ones covered?

Chicago strikes me as a great combination of walkable and affordable. However the population figures aren't compelling.

Overall Chicago is not very Asian...6.0% in 2015, with Chinese, Indian, and Filipino being the only categories over 1%. Cook county was a hair above that.

Seattle is more expensive and not as dense, but was 14.2% Asian in 2015 with every major Census category over 1%, i.e. more coverage of various countries. King County was a hair above that.

Houston's numbers were close to Chicago's. Harris County was a hair above that.

Portland's percentages were 7.6%, with the majority of that being Chinese or Vietnamese. There's no mega-county to be an equivalent.

The college-town focus might be a smart idea, but that seems like plentiful cheap takeout vs. great sit-down places.
Thanks for your thoughts. I chose to leave it as Asian so I could hear all the relevant options discussed, but for us the key would be Chinese food as a primary, with Japanese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese and Malay being very welcome secondary options.

The population percentage is not important...Chicago certainly has enough Asians in absolutely numbers to allow for good Asian restaurants.

Cheap takeout in no way would suffice. In any case that exists in almost every single town in America so a comparison would be moot lol.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top