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Old 06-18-2017, 02:41 PM
 
Location: I is where I is
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Last year my husband and I relocated from Chicago, IL to Atlanta, Ga with our children hoping for a better life and more affordable living situation. We both have medical billing experience, as well as warehouse/customer service experience for times we need to work temps and can't find a job in our field. No place is perfect and everywhere has problems but things that really stand out to me in a place to settle is: Ease of getting a job, cost of living, ease on credit checks, accessibility to stores, getting around, service, warm weather, decent schools and safety, decent people that are progressive.

Atl has been struggle after struggle, problem after problem. Pros: The cost of living, credit doesn't determine if you will have a place to live or a car to drive. Cons: Jobs too competitive and based off of networking. Pay is very low for expectations on the job. People care more about networking/socialization before getting to the money or succeeding. Lack of diversity. Poor state, every service is utilized to capacity. Nobody here really cares about you, service workers are indifferent because they've heard everything a thousand times. This city is also pretty lazy, everything closes early. People take forever to service you. School systems suck. Nightlife is too much of a focus here. Restaurants and places to hang out are mostly for couples and date nights. More bars, strip clubs lounges than things to do with families and children. Ghetto all over, even if the neighborhood looks nice. People are too jealous here and do anything to get your job position. City infrastructure sucks. You spend a lot of time in a car and put a lot of mileage on it. You have to ride the expressway everywhere and its almost impossible to not use gps here since the city isn't a grid like shape where streets go all the way through. A 5min ride here is 8miles of driving compared to suburbs in Chicago, a 5min ride is less than a mile away. The hills wear and tear your tires really quickly and so does the cold humidity at night, hoto and humid at 4pm mess with the air pressure in your tires. You spend a lot of money on new tires. Police are super petty here. Anything you do out here they need 10 forms of verification to prove identity because scamming is so big here. It makes simple things like picking up money, cashing a check, opening an account somewhere, applying for something or requesting service really difficult. Many people that are customer service workers aren't helpful here. ATL really isn't what people hype it up to be.

Some places we've been looking into were

California: Pros: Palm trees, higher paying jobs, ocean, weather, diversity, food, mountains, progressive people, can meet connects there Cons: Cost of living (its gotta be some towns out there that's affordable though, its common sense to not move directly in a metro area because rent will be the highest...same as Chicago; you have to move 15mins-2hrs away from the city for affordable rent)

Nevada: Pros: Close to California, weather, palm trees, cost of living. Cons: Doesn't seem to have many jobs, things might be too concentrated and dependent upon the strip. Not too sure if theres much for families or small children to do.

Arizona: Pros: Close to California, palm trees, warm weather, cost of living, jobs in medical billing seem abundant, might be more family orientated than other places Cons: lack of diversity, heard theres some racism there, might be too bland

Florida: Beautiful, beaches, warm weather,things to do with family, nightlife, diverse, progression, can meet connects there Cons: unsure about the job market, might cater to bi-lingual or not have enough jobs period, unsure about housing/credit checks, crime

or even Texas: Pros: Jobs, diversity, housing Cons: heard of racism, Husband doesn't want to stay in a southern type state

theres more but I really would like your opinion
California sucks for the most part. I am from Indiana/Kentucky, moved to the San Francisco area about 18 months ago, and still don't like it much more than when I first moved. Got a great job making good money, that's why I'm here. But will only be here about another year.

We live 30ish minutes inland, in a nice small town called Pleasant Hill. We pay $2100 for a 2 bed 1 bath apartment. Since we are inland, the summers are pretty terrible honestly, like today it's literatlly 102 degrees as we speak. Unless you can afford $3000 plus, you cannot live in the "uppity" areas. The scenery in NorCal is pretty awesome, aside from that, I don't care for it. A 26 mile drive to San Francisco in the mornings take me usually about 1hr 15-30 minutes (around 6am-7am) and if I'm not out of the city before 2pm, I want to kill myself.

Do yourself a favor, avoid the high COL, ridiculous taxes, crazy car registration prices, a ton of homeless people, and if you're not a die-hard liberal , you definitely don't want to be here.
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Old 06-18-2017, 02:46 PM
 
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Eh, I've lived in LV twice. Jobs aren't easy to find, unless you're in the medical field or have some kind of specialization. Hospitality and service jobs are easier to get if you have the network/social connections. The one thing I've remarked on to my now husband when we were moving to LV (my second time then), if I didn't know anyone at that job, the application process seems to take 3-6 months before I finally get a call (even at Target). Last time I spoke to a friend, she said it seemed to be now 8 months-ish. Other than that, we liked Las Vegas a lot, but with a family now, we would rather look over to Phoenix area instead (if we were looking to move back in that general area).
I think Phoenix has a lot to offer, and for a lot of people, it's a pretty neat place to live.

However, if one has children in their household, I would not recommend living in Phoenix full-time.

An unintended consequence of the highly transient nature of the population (including but not limited to the "snowbirds") is that people tend to not be as invested in a place if they are only living there part of the year. For many of the folks living in Phoenix, home is actually someplace else (Seattle or Minnesota or British Columbia, etc.).

The tax base for schools in Phoenix is starved because so many people do not want to invest in the communities they are living in 1/3 to 1/2 of the year. The population is tax-averse to begin with, but the geographic cognitive dissonance exacerbates the problem immensely.

It's a shame because the people I have met who are from Phoenix are some of the most highly inquisitive and intelligent people I have ever met. However, generally speaking, the folks who tend to reach their potential are the ones who have parents who can financially supplement for what is lacking in Phoenix schools.
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:52 PM
 
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I think Phoenix has a lot to offer, and for a lot of people, it's a pretty neat place to live.

However, if one has children in their household, I would not recommend living in Phoenix full-time.

An unintended consequence of the highly transient nature of the population (including but not limited to the "snowbirds") is that people tend to not be as invested in a place if they are only living there part of the year. For many of the folks living in Phoenix, home is actually someplace else (Seattle or Minnesota or British Columbia, etc.).

The tax base for schools in Phoenix is starved because so many people do not want to invest in the communities they are living in 1/3 to 1/2 of the year. The population is tax-averse to begin with, but the geographic cognitive dissonance exacerbates the problem immensely.

It's a shame because the people I have met who are from Phoenix are some of the most highly inquisitive and intelligent people I have ever met. However, generally speaking, the folks who tend to reach their potential are the ones who have parents who can financially supplement for what is lacking in Phoenix schools.
I get what you're saying. Las Vegas has an interesting setup, it's one huge school district. The first time I was living there, I worked with several staff and the kids. I didn't like what I saw, I don't think the huge school district set up is a good idea-- though I get what they were hoping to accomplish at the time. At least with the Phoenix area, there's many districts to choose from-- I just think overall, it's better that way. I do have several friends from various areas in the Phoenix area and they've been pretty positive for most parts, but then... they do live in the better off areas.

I just don't think for the OP, LV would be any better than ATL, though it does check just some of the things s/he's looking for.
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:05 PM
 
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I get what you're saying. Las Vegas has an interesting setup, it's one huge school district. The first time I was living there, I worked with several staff and the kids. I didn't like what I saw, I don't think the huge school district set up is a good idea-- though I get what they were hoping to accomplish at the time. At least with the Phoenix area, there's many districts to choose from-- I just think overall, it's better that way. I do have several friends from various areas in the Phoenix area and they've been pretty positive for most parts, but then... they do live in the better off areas.

I just don't think for the OP, LV would be any better than ATL, though it does check just some of the things s/he's looking for.
I think the reason Las Vegas chose the county-wide school district setup is rooted in the same issues plaguing the Phoenix schools. Plus, with a similarly transient population, having a bigger pool of money opens up some options.

I agree that Las Vegas has some issues, but I will confess: I'm a lefty weirdo who lives in Seattle and I think Phoenix is pretty rad. You never know what you'll like until you give it a shot.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I didn't do metro areas because I'm pretty open to different places in the states. For example many people would put Miami or tampa but I didn't want to miss out on better job markets in florida by limiting to a metro area.
Florida in general is known for a crappy job market and the wages don't match the COL. If you want warm weather and a good job market you can try Raleigh NC or Houston/Dallas TX. Texas gets pretty hot though too but it's getting very diverse (especially Houston) so I wouldn't worry about too much racism in the main cities.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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Florida in general is known for a crappy job market and the wages don't match the COL. If you want warm weather and a good job market you can try Raleigh NC or Houston/Dallas TX. Texas gets pretty hot though too but it's getting very diverse (especially Houston) so I wouldn't worry about too much racism in the main cities.
Raleigh (and also Charlotte) are getting more expensive. Dallas IS expensive; it definitely is not a low COL city. I also recommended Houston so I agree with you there.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Nashville TN, Cincinnati, OH
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I actually like Atlanta but traffic would kill me it is a city you absolutely have to live close to where you live within 5-10 miles preferable like 3-5 miles a way. Atlanta is one of the few affordable big metro's left in the US. I think it is an easy place to get a job compared to most of TN.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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Raleigh (and also Charlotte) are getting more expensive. Dallas IS expensive; it definitely is not a low COL city. I also recommended Houston so I agree with you there.
Dallas isn't expensive for a big city; it's pretty affordable.
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Move to Tampa or Central Florida. Does not have a southern feel and diverse. 1 hour on average to beach or less.
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:11 PM
 
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Dallas isn't expensive for a big city; it's pretty affordable.
What do you consider affordable?

Do you live there?

I think you should hang out on the Dallas forum. Here is just one of many recent threads:

Can I afford to move to Dallas?
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