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Old 06-29-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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If CO2 was a pollutant then people that drink coke would die instantly.
Well you should tell all those scientists that CO2 isn't a pollutant because people don't die when they drink coke.
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:05 AM
 
Location: South Padre Island, TX
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After looking at this list, I don't want to hear another California talk about how bad the air is in Texas, and other places outside their state.
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Lil Rhodey
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After looking at this list, I don't want to hear another California talk about how bad the air is in Texas, and other places outside their state.
California was the only state I lived in or spent a good amount of time in where I actually felt the effects of air pollution. And the only place where you could actually see it. I haven't been back in a while but I've heard it was a little better than it used to be. Good thing because in the 90's it was simply awful.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Majestic Wyoming
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Glad you're happy in WYO, but things have changed for the better with regards to Fresno's air and will keep improving(state gov attacking polluters is making a difference)

Foothills are easy to spot right now and will be for most of the Summer. I too remember struggling to see them in years past.

Fresno air quality for today is moderate to good. It was good all of yesterday.

Https://airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=...ity&cityid=275
I must respectfully disagree with you. I was living in Fresno for the entire 2016 summer and air quality was awful. My kids were forced to stay in at recess because the air quality was so bad. They weren't allowed outside for their after school activities for the same reason. In fact I was just in Fresno two weeks ago for over a week and a half, and even after the super rainy winter and spring the foothills were still obscured by smog.

I checked your link today and it says it is unhealthy for sensitive groups such as children and people with lung issues.such as asthma which a majority of people in Fresno have because of the bad air quality. Again I reiterate that kids can't play outside because the air quality is awful, why would I want to live in a place where I can't even send

I would love nothing more than to see the air quality improve in Fresno since our entire family lives there, but I am also realistic. More and more people are moving to Fresno, and despite the governments attempts to control things the air is only getting worse not better.
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:37 PM
 
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I must respectfully disagree with you. I was living in Fresno for the entire 2016 summer and air quality was awful. My kids were forced to stay in at recess because the air quality was so bad. They weren't allowed outside for their after school activities for the same reason. In fact I was just in Fresno two weeks ago for over a week and a half, and even after the super rainy winter and spring the foothills were still obscured by smog.

I checked your link today and it says it is unhealthy for sensitive groups such as children and people with lung issues.such as asthma which a majority of people in Fresno have because of the bad air quality. Again I reiterate that kids can't play outside because the air quality is awful, why would I want to live in a place where I can't even send

I would love nothing more than to see the air quality improve in Fresno since our entire family lives there, but I am also realistic. More and more people are moving to Fresno, and despite the governments attempts to control things the air is only getting worse not better.
"Many might think Fresno’s notoriously unhealthy air is growing worse, but the opposite is true. The San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District is hard at work cleaning up the valley’s air, and it’s paying off.

Despite drought and recent wildfires, Fresno’s air quality has steadily improved since 2002 and is expected to keep improving in the coming years. Fresno State students are encouraged to help make Fresno’s air cleaner for future generations"

Https://collegian.csufresno.edu/2016...-is-improving/


Fresno had good air quality in late June this year. That never used to happen 10 years ago. The air has turned bad right now cause everyone is overloading our freeway system for 4th of july(i5/99), it will improve soon enough.

Of course Fresno had bad air during your visit two weeks ago, it was 110 degrees, most cities would have bad air in 110 degree heat! More sun/heat = worse air. The air went back to good and moderate as soon as the heatwave went away. I can prove it if you don't believe me.

People getting paid to monitor air say the air is improving. These people are unbiased and should be trusted.

Goodbye
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:44 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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For all its liberal policies, California has some of the worst air in the nation. Even that special blend gasoline that causes gas prices in California to be the most expensive in the nation and giving Priuses rights to HOV lanes on LA's freeways. Even smaller cities in California like Fresno and Visalia have worse air than far larger Southern cities in states without overregulation.

At the same time Beckley, WV in the heart of coal country, and several cities in Louisiana with major refineries nearby are quite clean. Liberals must find it hard to wrap their heads around this.
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Old 07-02-2017, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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For all its liberal policies, California has some of the worst air in the nation. Even that special blend gasoline that causes gas prices in California to be the most expensive in the nation and giving Priuses rights to HOV lanes on LA's freeways. Even smaller cities in California like Fresno and Visalia have worse air than far larger Southern cities in states without overregulation.

At the same time Beckley, WV in the heart of coal country, and several cities in Louisiana with major refineries nearby are quite clean. Liberals must find it hard to wrap their heads around this.
Like others have pointed out, it has less to do with environmental policies and more to do with the climate (little rainfall to almost none during summer and fall months) and geography (such as basins and valleys that trap in particulates). Even long before the LA basin had any sort of significant population (in the 1540's), discoverer Juan Cabrillo noted that the basin was filled with a smoky haze, and this named the area "Baya de los Fumos, or "Bay of the Smokes".

Link: https://www.google.com/amp/gizmodo.c...1572151647/amp
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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Like others have pointed out, it has less to do with environmental policies and more to do with the climate (little rainfall to almost none during summer and fall months) and geography (such as basins and valleys that trap in particulates). Even long before the LA basin had any sort of significant population (in the 1540's), discoverer Juan Cabrillo noted that the basin was filled with a smoky haze, and this named the area "Baya de los Fumos, or "Bay of the Smokes".

Link: https://www.google.com/amp/gizmodo.c...1572151647/amp
Exactly, geography is what largely dictates air pollution with Salt Lake City a prime example of an area that's not a major contributor to carbon emissions that has terrible AQI readings throughout the year.
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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Philadelphia made the three top 25 lists for most pulluted.
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Old 07-03-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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For all its liberal policies, California has some of the worst air in the nation. Even that special blend gasoline that causes gas prices in California to be the most expensive in the nation and giving Priuses rights to HOV lanes on LA's freeways. Even smaller cities in California like Fresno and Visalia have worse air than far larger Southern cities in states without overregulation.

At the same time Beckley, WV in the heart of coal country, and several cities in Louisiana with major refineries nearby are quite clean. Liberals must find it hard to wrap their heads around this.
It's really not that hard to wrap your head around anything when you understand how much worse air pollution was in the 1970's in CA despite having millions less people. Guess those "liberal policies" did help make the air cleaner. Also when you understand how climate and geography affects air pollution it really should not come as any surprise to see some of these cities rank as some of the worse.
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