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Old 07-09-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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I gauge this by looking at the prevalence of suburban residents in an area who seem to completely disown their central city. I would assume Detroit is the winner in that sense? But ironically I'd say Milwaukee makes a strong case as well. I've been amazed by how many of their suburban residents talk about their specific small suburbs as if they stand alone -- they seem to prefer saying they're from Wisconsin rather than identifying with the metro. They ignore the existence of Milwaukee, as though it's not a big city right next door to them. Can any Wisconsinites here speak to that dynamic? Am I misreading things?
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Old 07-09-2017, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Life long Chicagoan here. My experiences with people in the Chicagoland suburbs is that they most have a very positive feeling about the city and know how fortunate we are to have a world class city as our core. Chicago is the magnet that draws us. And if we wish to see our kids after they leave college, we have to go into Chicago to do so....because that's where they are.
This is how I see most Novans view DC. Austin not so much.
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Old 07-09-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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Detroit seems like an obvious answer. Atlanta to some degree (more so 20 years ago then today). Also this may surprise some people but D.C is also up there. Plenty of people who live in the D.C suburbs have no desire to go downtown. Usually because they don't want to deal with tourist. Many of them also despise the government for obvious reasons.
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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Detroit seems like an obvious answer. Atlanta to some degree (more so 20 years ago then today). Also this may surprise some people but D.C is also up there. Plenty of people who live in the D.C suburbs have no desire to go downtown. Usually because they don't want to deal with tourist. Many of them also despise the government for obvious reasons.
I have relatives in NOVA who are Dallas Cowboys fans because they won't cheer for Washington. Apparently that is common in VA.
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:51 PM
 
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I have relatives in NOVA who are Dallas Cowboys fans because they won't cheer for Washington. Apparently that is common in VA.
Yeah unfortunately there's a lot of Cowboys fans out there. Most of them have never even been to Dallas. Although that's not just true in Nova, found plenty of them in Jersey to.
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Newspaper comment sections are always filled with cranks, political/industry stooges, nutjobs, and shut-ins. It's like a rule. For example, if they're 90% against a ballot measure it still might pass overwhelmingly.

City/suburb divides are real but most people have more nuanced views than the loud voices we often hear, whether they're on talk radio or work with you.
St. Louis' issue is that the divide is governmental well. St. Louis has to deal with getting cannibalized by a city like Clayton since Clayton certainly has a better reputation at the moment. Other cities, even if their suburbs look down on them, generally have more sway over their suburbs. It's the county that calls the shots in the St. Louis region. Or at least it can feel that way.
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Chicago. I hear people trash the city because of crime and taxes.
I wouldn't agree with this. Suburbanites might ***** about the city, but they always seem to claim Chicago in a heartbeat when asked where they're from. Additionally, Chicago's property taxes are generally lower than many of its suburbs.
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: USA
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Flint, Detroit, Cleveland, Hartford, St Louis, and Atlanta
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Old 07-09-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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I've actually seen it in Seattle as well. Many of the residents in neighboring counties or even other parts of King County complain about the city being a liberal, snarled with traffic, overspending entity that doesn't represent them. Just check out Seattle Times or MyNorthwest comment sections.

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/sick...unty/516535965

Dori Monson: I'm finished with downtown Seattle

This dislike of Seattle is even more extreme at the state level.
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Old 07-09-2017, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Yeah unfortunately there's a lot of Cowboys fans out there. Most of them have never even been to Dallas. Although that's not just true in Nova, found plenty of them in Jersey to.
"America's Team"
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Old 07-09-2017, 07:02 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Plenty of people who live in the D.C suburbs have no desire to go downtown. Usually because they don't want to deal with tourist. Many of them also despise the government for obvious reasons.
I live in Maryland and enjoy going into DC. It never gets old for me.

I also like downtown Baltimore, Philly and NYC and go to those cities as much as I can as well.
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