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Old 07-08-2017, 04:57 PM
 
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I live in St. Louis and most everyone here just loathes the city. Many explicitly say they'll "never go there except for cardinal games." The media outlets always discuss crime without noting any developments or positive events at all. Comment sections are regularly filled with suburbanites criticizing city leadership, denoting crime, and generally blaming the city's issues on Democrat leadership, bad culture, "street thugs," bad parenting, etc-but you won't ever find a shred of empathy. Misconceptions are everywhere, fueled largely by a bad a crime rate and a lack of understanding of where that crime takes place and who it truly affects. County residents make it clear they want nothing to do with the city by electing leadership that does not cooperate with the city. Edited for language

So my question is, does any other city have it this bad? What other inner cities get a lot of grief from their suburbanites? I would like to think Detroit is one other city that hears much of the same regionally internal criticism, but I've heard a lot of the opposite from people I've met that live in the area. Same with Cleveland.

What about where you live? What kind of anecdotes and evidence do you have about suburban distaste for your urban core?

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Old 07-08-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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I never really heard of such distaste about St. Louis but I think Detroit really takes the cake on this issue.
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Old 07-08-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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Newspaper comment sections are always filled with cranks, political/industry stooges, nutjobs, and shut-ins. It's like a rule. For example, if they're 90% against a ballot measure it still might pass overwhelmingly.

City/suburb divides are real but most people have more nuanced views than the loud voices we often hear, whether they're on talk radio or work with you.
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Old 07-08-2017, 05:39 PM
 
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Newspaper comment sections are always filled with cranks, political/industry stooges, nutjobs, and shut-ins. It's like a rule. For example, if they're 90% against a ballot measure it still might pass overwhelmingly.

City/suburb divides are real but most people have more nuanced views than the loud voices we often hear, whether they're on talk radio or work with you.
I totally agree, but then the people I talk to in real life tend to have a similar attitude. There's less of a disparity between the internet nutcases and typical residents than there should be.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:33 PM
 
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The people you talk to in real life will have a different average bias than the overall population. HOW different will vary.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:42 PM
 
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Detroit. Suburbanites don't even acknowledge the city. If you ask someone from say, Farmington Hills or Sterling Heights or Livonia where they're from, they'll most likely say "Michigan". And if you ask, "Oh, where in Michigan?" they'll probably say "southeast Michigan". Then ask, "Detroit?" and they'll likely say, "well, outside of Detroit", as if their totally embarrassed to associate with the city.

There are plenty of city bashers in the St. Louis metro, but when they go out of town, almost all of them will proudly say they're from St. Louis.

One observation I've made about Detroit and Cleveland vs. St. Louis is that Detroiters and Clevelanders seem to claim their states proudly. There seems to be a lot of Michigan and Ohio pride (respectively) in those cities and residents of those cities proudly identify with their state. On the other hand, St. Louisans really have no love for the state of Missouri, and "Missouri pride" is not a thing at all. I think Kansas City identifies more closely with the state of Missouri, but St. Louis and its immediate suburbs seem very detached from the state. Fine by me.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:58 PM
 
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Detroit. Suburbanites don't even acknowledge the city. If you ask someone from say, Farmington Hills or Sterling Heights or Livonia where they're from, they'll most likely say "Michigan". And if you ask, "Oh, where in Michigan?" they'll probably say "southeast Michigan". Then ask, "Detroit?" and they'll likely say, "well, outside of Detroit", as if their totally embarrassed to associate with the city.

There are plenty of city bashers in the St. Louis metro, but when they go out of town, almost all of them will proudly say they're from St. Louis.

One observation I've made about Detroit and Cleveland vs. St. Louis is that Detroiters and Clevelanders seem to claim their states proudly. There seems to be a lot of Michigan and Ohio pride (respectively) in those cities and residents of those cities proudly identify with their state. On the other hand, St. Louisans really have no love for the state of Missouri, and "Missouri pride" is not a thing at all. I think Kansas City identifies more closely with the state of Missouri, but St. Louis and its immediate suburbs seem very detached from the state. Fine by me.
I've noticed this....do you wish that there were more state pride or do you feel as though you are better than the state you're in?
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Old 07-08-2017, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Austin and it's suburbs openly hate each other. Mutual feelings.
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Old 07-08-2017, 10:27 PM
 
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Atlanta.
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Old 07-08-2017, 11:32 PM
 
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Chicago. I hear people trash the city because of crime and taxes.
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