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Old 07-11-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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Thankfully NO; however a few are trying to catch up like NY, NJ, OR and WA.
NY and NJ??????? Not sure where you're getting that from. Those are old established states with their own identities and they aren't trying to be like anyone else.
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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There are tons of NY transplants in FL but that doesn't mean that FL is the state most comparable to NY. Both CA and CO are western states with similarities, but the lack of a coast in CO is a very, very significant difference.
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Except that CO is landlocked by a long distance. CA's coastline is a big part of its identity and draw.

Sunshinewise, both states are up there.
I wasn't speaking to literal geography obviously. The point being the lifestyle of fitness-oriented outdoorsy living along with fresh air, sunshine, more space and less congestion appeals to many Californians seeking some familiarity.
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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I wasn't speaking to literal geography obviously. The point being the lifestyle of fitness-oriented outdoorsy living along with fresh air, sunshine, more space and less congestion appeals to many Californians seeking some familiarity.
I get that but your rationale was based on the fact that a bunch of folks are relocating to CO from CA.
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The Springs
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I would say Colorado is probably the next closest, as witnessed by the number of CA transplants.
Many Coloradans are natives moving back here after leaving for the coast in the 70's and 80's. In 2012, 6% of people moving to CO are from CA. 8% of Californians move to UT, 12% ID, and 19% NV.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/u...ince-1900.html

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Old 07-11-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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If you're looking for an alternative that has nice natural environment, nice weather and low COL, I suggest Florida.
Not even close. The comparison ends at the coastal attributes as the weather isn't "nice" 7-8 months of the year, the cost of living is not low when balanced against average salaries and never mind the overall opposite lifestyle (and politics) in most instances.
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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I wasn't speaking to literal geography obviously. The point being the lifestyle of fitness-oriented outdoorsy living along with fresh air, sunshine, more space and less congestion appeals to many Californians seeking some familiarity.
No, you didn't say that. You said CO is the closest match, not mentioning those attributes at all.
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Old 07-11-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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No. Just go for it.
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:05 PM
 
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I wasn't speaking to literal geography obviously. The point being the lifestyle of fitness-oriented outdoorsy living along with fresh air, sunshine, more space and less congestion appeals to many Californians seeking some familiarity.
Wait, what part of Southern California are you, or the OP, from? That entire state is congested and crowded compared to most of the nation. Southern California also doesn't have great air because of its geography, if posters from an other thread here are to be believed.
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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Haven't really had an issue with the air
Closer to the water you get the better the air becomes. Getting into the hills and mountains away from the ocean air can be a bit heavy. Haven't noticed much about pollution or smog in the air. I am only out here visting right now.

As far as traffic reminds me of where I live. There's a highway that is notoriously backed up can add an hour or 2 to your drive. You also have other options to avoid it similar to out here. The highways here though are so wide and smooth. Seems to be more options carpool lanes with essier access and toll roads that are less congested.

COL is a bit of a shock. Gas is about 30 cents more out here, but diesel cost about the same as where I live. Diesel is actually cheaper than regular gas out here. You still can probably save a few dollars by buying an electric car out here. Also gas tax is less out here.

Income tax is about 3.8 percent lower where we are living. On average looking to make about 1.3 to 2 percent more a year in California.

Property tax appears to be lower in California.

Average is about $6K for property taxes; could spend close to $12K for property under $200K in certain areas of the State. Average house cost is lower where we live about $200K to $250K. Though house values do appear to be on the rise. Also have to add in heat, which can be expensive where we currently live.

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Old 07-12-2017, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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No. It is the alpha state in this country.
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