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Old 07-13-2017, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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There is that, too. Having plentiful rivers and lakes helps. I used to hate the Midwest and think it was hideous, but that was when I compared it to Colorado and the Pacific Northwest. We'll never have the same beautiful nature that those areas do, but the Midwest has its treasures. There's the Ozarks in Arkansas and Southern Missouri, and the Northwoods of Minnesota and Wisconsin, and of course the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. There's beauty everywhere if you're willing to look for it.
I think Michigan has some very beautiful parts. A smart and wealthy person could set them and their family up by investing in real estate there.
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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I disagree somewhat, as I believe SF and NY are the two best cities in the country and still have plenty of character. Their expense is outrageous but somewhat justified. If you're wealthy, they're the best places to be. I've never been to LA so cannot comment. Denver and Portland have very much lost a lot of their "artsy" character, but I never found them to be appealing as cities. Their value lies in their proximity to natural beauty and adventures. Austin and many other Sun Belt cities have no character, largely because they are still so new. In 100 years that may change. However, they'll never have the rustic charm of the Northeast and Midwest.
I agree for the most part, but I think there are appealing aspects regarding Portland and Denver. They aren't world class cities, but they're beautiful
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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My reasons for not wanting to move to one of the current hot spots are:

1.) What the OP touched on. Why add to the sprawl, congestion, and overtaxed infrastructure of a place that is already growing way too fast? It does nothing to improve that place.

2.) I avoid places with sprawl, congestion, and overtaxed infrastructure like the plague, so why would I choose that, even if I didn't care about adding the the problems?

3.) I have slowly been falling in love with my adopted home state of Michigan over the past few decades until I can't even fathom living anywhere else. The small town of 4,500 people that I live in is currently undergoing a growth spurt with lots of new homes being built and new businesses like Starbucks and Hampton Inn coming in. Honestly, I don't like it at all. I feel like if I wanted to see sprawl happening around me I could move to Florida or North Carolina. I know it sounds selfish, but I really hope that people don't start coming here and realizing what a great place it is to live. I like it the way it is.
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Clovis Strong, NM
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My reasons for not wanting to move to one of the current hot spots are:

1.) What the OP touched on. Why add to the sprawl, congestion, and overtaxed infrastructure of a place that is already growing way too fast? It does nothing to improve that place.

2.) I avoid places with sprawl, congestion, and overtaxed infrastructure like the plague, so why would I choose that, even if I didn't care about adding the the problems?

3.) I have slowly been falling in love with my adopted home state of Michigan over the past few decades until I can't even fathom living anywhere else. The small town of 4,500 people that I live in is currently undergoing a growth spurt with lots of new homes being built and new businesses like Starbucks and Hampton Inn coming in. Honestly, I don't like it at all. I feel like if I wanted to see sprawl happening around me I could move to Florida or North Carolina. I know it sounds selfish, but I really hope that people don't start coming here and realizing what a great place it is to live. I like it the way it is.
Funny thing is that the north side of Clovis NM is already kind of booming with the likes of shops/stores/restaurants that I used to see when living in Victorville CA. Sure, it's nice to have Planet Fitness, a Del Taco, Hampton Inn, and the PetSmart all down the street and not have to drive to Lubbock or Roswell. But just like Victorville, the old school downtown area is fading into obscurity. The small-town charm fell to the wayside some time ago here, and now it's just become a transient facility for out of town oil and windfarm workers, along with air force personnel and families that will probably stay for 2-4 years, then get a transfer to some other base.
So yeah, not really a commuter city, but more of a consistent "boom town" where the population is dependent on projects and force requirements in the area.

On another note, I'm possibly going to be switching jobs again out to most likely Albuquerque. Some say sprawl exists there, but from what I've seen, it tends to end at a certain point.
That and it's still relatively under the radar to the point where one could still find a decent home or apartment and not pay out the wazoo.
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