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Old 07-16-2017, 04:19 PM
 
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Hi there,

I am new here. Our young family (multi-racial, progressive, nature loving, free-spirited) family is looking to move. We are looking to raise our kids out of the rat race. Here are the key considerations:

1. Lots of nature - forests, ocean, (Great) lakes, mountains etc.
2. Lots of healthy food options - organic foods, local farms etc.
3. Like-minded people - non judgmental, well educated, health-oriented, free spirits
4. Education - Montessori, Forest schools etc.
5. Cool weather - trying to get away from the warm and muggy summers
6. Non-toxic - we are looking to get out of a very polluted city, so looking for a place without much superfund sites, coal mines, radiation etc.
7. Low cost of living - we will reduce our income (one of us will quit our job). So we will have less money to play with - say $60K/year.

Unfortunately, Pacific NW may not be an option given the high cost of living. Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks Much!
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Old 07-16-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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The big PNW cities aren't cheap, but smaller cities like Bellingham, Olympia, and Eugene might be within reach.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:15 PM
 
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Thanks! I am somewhat concerned about the Fukushima radiation reaching the west coast. I am reading up on it. Someone mentioned Grand Marias, MN. Has anyone been there?
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:38 PM
 
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The big PNW cities aren't cheap, but smaller cities like Bellingham, Olympia, and Eugene might be within reach.
Prog cities anywhere aren't cheap, Kind of comes with the territory(Taxes, Gov Mandates, Regs driving up energy prices, etc), raising a family on 60k will be super difficult. Maybe Asheville?

OP can you keep the 2nd income? 80-90k might make Portland possible, although daycare costs may wipe out much of the second income if the kids need to be watched.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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Progressive places also tend to have better public services, which can save most people money.

For example better transit...you can ditch the car more easily, or ditch the second car.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Back in the Mitten. Formerly NC
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Honestly, Michigan checks off pretty much everything on your list. Stay away from southeastern Michigan due to the desire to get away from factories/cities.
If you thin of your hand as the mitten, the 'palm' area (minus Metro Detroit) will probably suit your needs better. More access to the healthy lifestyle. On the flip side, the 'fingers' have more of the outdoors stuff readily available.
I think the southwestern portion of the state would probably be the best fit overall.

Summers in Michigan are better than anywhere else. (Better than anywhere I've visited in summer time, at least.) It can get muggy sometimes, but even those days are nothing compared to the south. You get stretches where it is hot and you can do water stuff, then it will cool off and you can enjoy other activities without dying of a heat stroke.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:30 PM
 
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Perhaps look into this neighborhood/area: https://westcottsyr.com/org/wna/
UNPA | University Neighborhood Preservation Association
seuna - Home
https://www.planning.org/greatplaces...ersityhill.htm
Westcott

I only mention it due to its vibe, its proximity to a Great Lake(Lake Ontario 45 minutes away), its affordability and proximity to these 2 Montessori schools: Montessori School of Syracuse

Montessori Discovery School, Syracuse/Dewitt NY -- Preschool and Kindergarten for ages 3-6

This university is adjacent to Syracuse University: ESF | SUNY-ESF | College of Environmental Science and Forestry

This is within the same county: Highland Forest Onondaga County Parks

There is plenty of skiing nearby and the Adirondack Mountains are about an hour and a half away. The Catskills and Poconos are about the same to 2 hours away. You also are minutes from the Finger Lakes region.

Small towns outside of Ithaca like Trumansburg, Newfield and perhaps Dryden, along with parts of Enfield and the town of Ithaca would/could fit.

There are other Upstate NY locations that could fit as well.

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Old 07-17-2017, 05:46 AM
 
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Check out Westbrook, Maine which is just 7 miles west of Portland ME and the most liberal area of Maine along with most of the Portland metro. It's quite affordable and otherwise carries the rest of your criteria as well. In terms of housing it was unclear as to whether you plan to buy or rent, but in either case it definitely seems comfortable on the your projected salary and more so if you might decide to augment with something part-time perhaps.

City of Westbrook, Maine : Home
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...zm/0_mmm/1_fr/
https://homes.trovit.com/index.php/c...E/rooms_min.3/
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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Perhaps look into this neighborhood/area: https://westcottsyr.com/org/wna/
UNPA | University Neighborhood Preservation Association
seuna - Home
https://www.planning.org/greatplaces...ersityhill.htm
Westcott

I only mention it due to its vibe, its proximity to a Great Lake(Lake Ontario 45 minutes away), its affordability and proximity to these 2 Montessori schools: Montessori School of Syracuse

Montessori Discovery School, Syracuse/Dewitt NY -- Preschool and Kindergarten for ages 3-6

This university is adjacent to Syracuse University: ESF | SUNY-ESF | College of Environmental Science and Forestry

This is within the same county: Highland Forest Onondaga County Parks

There is plenty of skiing nearby and the Adirondack Mountains are about an hour and a half away. The Catskills and Poconos are about the same to 2 hours away. You also are minutes from the Finger Lakes region.

Small towns outside of Ithaca like Trumansburg, Newfield and perhaps Dryden, along with parts of Enfield and the town of Ithaca would/could fit.

There are other Upstate NY locations that could fit as well.
I thought that it would be mentioned extensively in one of the websites, but this co-op market is also in that area: https://www.syracuserealfood.coop

If you drive, this place isn't too far away as well: Natur-Tyme - Your Shop in Syracuse for Discount Vitamins,  Nutritional Supplements, Sports Nutrition, & Books on Health Issues
This place is across town: Green Planet Grocery
This doesn't include organic foods at the multiple Wegmans locations: https://www.wegmans.com
Or this market near the neighborhood: Tops Friendly Markets - Natural and Organic

There's this market as well: CNYRMA There is also a farmers market in the neighborhood in front of the Westcott Community Center every Wednesday during the warmer months, among other area farmers markets.

A vegan restaurant nearby: Menus for Strong Hearts Cafe - Syracuse - SinglePlatform
Also, I know that Alto Cinco in the neighborhood has vegetarian options. This is north of the city: CoreLife Eatery is Focused on Healthy, Active Lifestyles | Not a Spectator

So, there are quite a few healthy food options in the immediate area.

Also, if you want or don't mind a suburban area, I'd say that the older parts of DeWitt would work, as those affiliated with the colleges/universities and hospitals in that area may live in the town(specifically the Jamesville-DeWitt SD). Some may also live in the Fayetteville-Manlius SD further east, which is one of the best and most affluent school districts in Upstate NY, if not the state in general. You may find homes in your price range, but keep taxes in mind. There may be others that would fit as well.

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Old 07-18-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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Perhaps look into this neighborhood/area: https://westcottsyr.com/org/wna/
UNPA | University Neighborhood Preservation Association
seuna - Home
https://www.planning.org/greatplaces...ersityhill.htm
Westcott

I only mention it due to its vibe, its proximity to a Great Lake(Lake Ontario 45 minutes away), its affordability and proximity to these 2 Montessori schools: Montessori School of Syracuse

Montessori Discovery School, Syracuse/Dewitt NY -- Preschool and Kindergarten for ages 3-6

This university is adjacent to Syracuse University: ESF | SUNY-ESF | College of Environmental Science and Forestry

This is within the same county: Highland Forest Onondaga County Parks

There is plenty of skiing nearby and the Adirondack Mountains are about an hour and a half away. The Catskills and Poconos are about the same to 2 hours away. You also are minutes from the Finger Lakes region.

Small towns outside of Ithaca like Trumansburg, Newfield and perhaps Dryden, along with parts of Enfield and the town of Ithaca would/could fit.

There are other Upstate NY locations that could fit as well.
Some homes in the first general area/side of town that may work for you with that income(taxes are before exemptions): http://www.city-data.com/forum/newre...ply&p=48860867
https://www.google.com/maps/place/91...!4d-76.1182262


Syracuse Real Estate - 1105 Euclid Avenue, Syracuse, NY, 13210
https://www.google.com/maps/place/11...1!4d-76.114805


Syracuse Real Estate - 114 Janet Drive, Syracuse, NY, 13224
https://www.google.com/maps/place/11...1!4d-76.108117


Syracuse Real Estate - 310 Albert Road, Syracuse, NY, 13214 (further east)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0442...7i13312!8i6656


Syracuse Real Estate - 207 Hillsboro Parkway, Syracuse, NY, 13214 (further east)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0406...7i13312!8i6656


Syracuse Real Estate - 801 Westmoreland Avenue, Syracuse, NY, 13210 (only blocks from the Westcott business district)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0390...7i13312!8i6656


Syracuse Real Estate - 726 South Beech Street, Syracuse, NY, 13210 (right next to the business district)
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0410...7i13312!8i6656


Syracuse Real Estate - 1201 Euclid Avenue, Syracuse, NY, 13210
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0371...7i13312!8i6656


Those are the ones available that may work and are relatively close to the schools. Euclid is a short walk to the business district: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0401...7i13312!8i6656


Co-Op market: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0320...7i13312!8i6656


Nearby park: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0304...7i13312!8i6656
Barry Park | Syracuse Parks


and another one: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0393...7i13312!8i6656
Thornden Park Association - Syracuse NY
http://www.syracuse.ny.us/Parks/thorndenPark.html
Has a Shakespeare In the Park annual festival as well.


Another business district not too far away: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0416...7i13312!8i6656


Community Center that also has a farmers market on Wednesdays: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0368...7i13312!8i6656
https://westcottcc.org/
https://westcottcc.org/farmers-market/


Annual festival: Westcott Street Cultural Fair


If you are into live music: The Westcott Theater
The Westcott Theater :: Upcoming Events


You can also walk or take a short drive or bike ride to lectures and other events at Syracuse University as well. Lecture History | University Lectures


https://suevents.syr.edu/tips.php


Another nearby shopping area: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0284...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0224...7i13312!8i6656


Montessori schools are in the area as well.
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