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Old 08-02-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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I agree, the grit comes from old, rusted bridges, railroad tracks and their immediate surroundings, old factories or other commercial buildings preferably in the British/rust-belt red brick style, row homes, or old skyscrapers like in Detroit but run down detached homes are not gritty. Generally the old rust-belt building style is gritty.

It is surprising how much grit the South actually has and how many streets look like they might just as well be located somewhere in the rust-belt:

Dallas

https://www.google.nl/maps/@32.77701...7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.nl/maps/@32.77032...7i13312!8i6656
The South suffered white flight as well. Those 2 Dallas examples are within walking distance to gentrifying/revitalizing areas. Eventually, those buildings will see new life.
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Old 08-02-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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These kinds of places are a dime a dozen in mid-sized cities all over the place. There is nothing 'special' or unique to Birmingham in any of them.
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Old 08-02-2017, 08:44 PM
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These kinds of places are a dime a dozen in mid-sized cities all over the place. There is nothing 'special' or unique to Birmingham in any of them.
Lol well yeah, to cities with decent amounts of gritty eliments; mostly in the Midwest/Northeast...

None of the examples explained in the thread fits cities in the south like Atlanta, Dallas, or Houston; not even close.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...29a8436551b22d
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...29a8436551b22d
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Lol well yeah, to cities with decent amounts of gritty eliments; mostly in the Midwest/Northeast...

None of the examples explained in the thread fits cities in the south like Atlanta, Dallas, or Houston; not even close.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...29a8436551b22d
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...29a8436551b22d
And these pics look like Dothan or Montgomery. Again, nothing special at all.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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Lol well yeah, to cities with decent amounts of gritty eliments; mostly in the Midwest/Northeast...

None of the examples explained in the thread fits cities in the south like Atlanta, Dallas, or Houston; not even close.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...29a8436551b22d
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...29a8436551b22d
LOL, this could be Macon or Augusta and certainly there are areas in Atlanta that would fit the bill.
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:11 AM
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And these pics look like Dothan or Montgomery. Again, nothing special at all.
That's the point, the look like Downtown areas of those cities, but in Birmingham it's nothing more than just a neighborhood. Outside of those central areas, you're not finding multiple examples of Urban Grit miles from the city center.

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LOL, this could be Macon or Augusta and certainly there are areas in Atlanta that would fit the bill.
No, there's not..not even close. lmao

That's why you guys are naming smaller cities, because you know Atlanta is regularly a place where you don't find Urban Grit. Ensley alone probably blows any neighborhood in Atlanta out the water; including Edgewood, LFP, and etc.
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Old 08-03-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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No, there's not..not even close. lmao
LOL, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Walk the length of Ellis Street in downtown Augusta and you'll clearly see it: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4755...7i13312!8i6656

Actually, that example of Augusta comes closer to the definition of "grit" than those Streetviews you showed.
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Old 08-03-2017, 03:05 PM
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LOL, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Walk the length of Ellis Street in downtown Augusta and you'll clearly see it: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4755...7i13312!8i6656

Actually, that example of Augusta comes closer to the definition of "grit" than those Streetviews you showed.
You were better off posting examples of Augusta cause clearly doing so for Atlanta is almost nonexistent. Anyways, that's a nice link of an alley in Downtown Augusta, congrats, you proved my point; still doesn't take away from the fact that my post was strictly aimed at Atlanta, and the poor examples of what you guys considered grit.

To quote other posters.

"I agree, the grit comes from old, rusted bridges, railroad tracks and their immediate surroundings, old factories or other commercial buildings preferably in the British/rust-belt red brick style, row homes, or old skyscrapers like in Detroit but run down detached homes are not gritty. Generally the old rust-belt building style is gritty."

"To me the biggest difference is a gritty neighborhood implies an area which is run down, but still mostly intact. E.g., there may be tons of abandoned buildings, but there's not a lot of vacant lots. Perhaps most key, it's not a very green area. A lot of bad neighborhoods in the South seem to have a lot of grass and trees, which takes away from the gritty vibe, making it feel more rural/backwoodsy."

North Birmingham

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5510...kUNtsrws-A!2e0
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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You were better off posting examples of Augusta cause clearly doing so for Atlanta is almost nonexistent. Anyways, that's a nice link of an alley in Downtown Augusta, congrats, you proved my point; still doesn't take away from the fact that my post was strictly aimed at Atlanta, and the poor examples of what you guys considered grit.

To quote other posters.

"I agree, the grit comes from old, rusted bridges, railroad tracks and their immediate surroundings, old factories or other commercial buildings preferably in the British/rust-belt red brick style, row homes, or old skyscrapers like in Detroit but run down detached homes are not gritty. Generally the old rust-belt building style is gritty."

"To me the biggest difference is a gritty neighborhood implies an area which is run down, but still mostly intact. E.g., there may be tons of abandoned buildings, but there's not a lot of vacant lots. Perhaps most key, it's not a very green area. A lot of bad neighborhoods in the South seem to have a lot of grass and trees, which takes away from the gritty vibe, making it feel more rural/backwoodsy."

North Birmingham

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5510...kUNtsrws-A!2e0
I agree that the area needs to be mostly intact. To me, there is a difference between simply "run down" and classic urban grit; in the sense that grit is sometimes even desirable because you can get the urban essence of a particular city. Good examples to me are in active, livable areas of a city that exhibit its character. It's got some uniqueness to it. Grit can be "sexy." That's why I would consider places like the Marigny in New Orleans and Richmond's Jackson Ward as providing some of the stronger examples in the South. It seems like a few of the areas posted are largely run down/abandoned that normal people would not want to venture into.

Marigny -
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9638...7i13312!8i6656

Jackson Ward -
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5475...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:36 PM
 
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You were better off posting examples of Augusta cause clearly doing so for Atlanta is almost nonexistent. Anyways, that's a nice link of an alley in Downtown Augusta, congrats, you proved my point; still doesn't take away from the fact that my post was strictly aimed at Atlanta, and the poor examples of what you guys considered grit.
Your logic is pretty warped; I clearly proved you wrong ("No there's not...not even close. Lmao") but somehow I proved your point??? I demonstrated that you don't know what you're talking about and I never even posted Streetview links of gritty areas in Atlanta; I just named some areas/neighborhoods.
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