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Old 08-04-2017, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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2017 homicides - Omaha homicide victims and information - Omaha.com - Omaha World-Herald

Omaha at 17 homicides with 445,000 people. The suburbs tend to have hardly any and the metropolitan area is nearly a million people.

http://cjis.lincoln.ne.gov/HTBIN/CGI.com

Lincoln might still be at zero with 280,000 people.

Suspects in Des Moines’ 19th Homicide This Year Have Criminal Gang Charges in Their History | whotv.com

Des Moines with 210,000 people has had 19 homicides.

Kansas City on its way to another deadly record with 87 homicide - KCTV5

Kansas City which is of similar size has had 87 homicides in the city proper.

http://www.slmpd.org/images/Homicide...or_Website.pdf

St. Louis has had 114 homicides so far this year and barely larger then Lincoln which might still be at zero.

Second Man Arrested For Murder In Tulsa's 51st Homicide - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |

Tulsa which has 400,000 people has had 51.

I was just in Nebraska for four months and have to say there tends to be a very large police presence in Lincoln and Omaha. There also is a culture there that people tend to be extremely close-knit, neighborly and there tends to be lots of neighborhood watches.
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:14 PM
 
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What are the demographics of these cities? Is there a lot of diversity? A lot of poverty? A lot of gang activity? A lot of drug activity?
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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2017 homicides - Omaha homicide victims and information - Omaha.com - Omaha World-Herald

Omaha at 17 homicides with 445,000 people. The suburbs tend to have hardly any and the metropolitan area is nearly a million people.

http://cjis.lincoln.ne.gov/HTBIN/CGI.com

Lincoln might still be at zero with 280,000 people.

Suspects in Des Moines’ 19th Homicide This Year Have Criminal Gang Charges in Their History | whotv.com

Des Moines with 210,000 people has had 19 homicides.

Kansas City on its way to another deadly record with 87 homicide - KCTV5

Kansas City which is of similar size has had 87 homicides in the city proper.

http://www.slmpd.org/images/Homicide...or_Website.pdf

St. Louis has had 114 homicides so far this year and barely larger then Lincoln which might still be at zero.

Second Man Arrested For Murder In Tulsa's 51st Homicide - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |

Tulsa which has 400,000 people has had 51.

I was just in Nebraska for four months and have to say there tends to be a very large police presence in Lincoln and Omaha. There also is a culture there that people tend to be extremely close-knit, neighborly and there tends to be lots of neighborhood watches.

Nebraska cities have lower xxx population compare to other cities

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Old 08-04-2017, 11:30 PM
 
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Don't even start, if you remember Omaha in 2015 had close to 50 homicides. Not saying it's a bad thing that Omaha has had a low homicide rate compared to other years, but this year is an outlier in Omaha(Which would hopefully continue into other years).

I and multiple people have called you out for the things you've said about Des Moines. You clearly have an agenda to make other cities, specifically Des Moines(based on the posts you've made on the politics forum and 2017 murders thread) ,look bad.
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:23 PM
 
Location: KCMO
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Number of murders in a city can vary between years
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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Nebraska has fewer blacks than the more industrialized Midwestern states to the east, sans Iowa, and fewer Indians than neighboring states to the north and west, namely South Dakota and Wyoming.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Nebraska has fewer blacks than the more industrialized Midwestern states to the east, sans Iowa, and fewer Indians than neighboring states to the north and west, namely South Dakota and Wyoming.
That doesn't explain Des Moines' murder rate, which is at least double Omaha's this year, despite similar or lower black population %.

Why is this a concern for the OP? Do we want a HIGHER murder rate?

Btw, KC and STL have serious issues!
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Old 08-07-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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Well Kansas City Metro is at least twice the size of Omaha and St. Louis is close to 3x the size of Omaha, despite having a "smaller" central city. St. Louis also has a lot of poverty, is at the intersection of many major interstates making it a big drug distribution market. St. Louis also has a long history of gangsterism and violence. Even Al Capone warned about those St. Louis and Kansas City gangsters being ruthless and these criminal gangbangers during the 20s were Italian and Irish, not black.
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Old 08-07-2017, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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That doesn't explain Des Moines' murder rate, which is at least double Omaha's this year, despite similar or lower black population %.

Why is this a concern for the OP? Do we want a HIGHER murder rate?

Btw, KC and STL have serious issues!
From what I was able to read on KCCI, they think the Des Moines murders this year are more of an outlier or are related to drugs coming into the city. I live in a DSM for a year back in 2012, and I thought it was extremely safe. Omaha always had a reputation for more crime.

With that said, if someone were to kill their kids, wife, and themselves, one incident like that a year can pull the murder rate way up in somewhere like Des Moines. The numbers would look bad, but that doesn't mean the underlying reality on the ground would have changed much, especially if the killings are domestic or among people who know each other.
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Old 08-07-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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Well Kansas City Metro is at least twice the size of Omaha and St. Louis is close to 3x the size of Omaha, despite having a "smaller" central city. St. Louis also has a lot of poverty, is at the intersection of many major interstates making it a big drug distribution market. St. Louis also has a long history of gangsterism and violence. Even Al Capone warned about those St. Louis and Kansas City gangsters being ruthless and these criminal gangbangers during the 20s were Italian and Irish, not black.
This is so true. Many people listen to the news or read a statistic and digest it and not look into what the story is behind the statistic.

Missouri as a state is one of the most violent states in the country now. Below is a listing of the top 3 MSA in Missouri
  1. Springfield MSA has 621 per 100k
  2. Kansas City 535 per 100k
  3. St. Louis MSA 486 per 100k

Tennessee is another example is the same way
  1. Memphis MSA 1038 per 100k
  2. Nashville MSA 612 per 100k
  3. Knoxville MSA 412 per 100k

Nebraska and Iowa isn't in the same bracket but
  1. Omaha MSA 325 per 100k
  2. Lincoln MSA 330 per 100k
  3. Des Moines MSA 367 per 100k
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