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Old 09-05-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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The Rust Belt city downtowns are all supported by outstanding suburbs. The Back-to-the-Burbs trend will only continue to spread throughout the US as the rich/poor inner cities continue to decline.
Pittsburgh has some of the most lackluster suburbs in the country. This city has a decent downtown and very little of worth in the burbs.
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Old 09-06-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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and Sacramento.
Sacramento's downtown is actually pretty nice, with Old Sac, K street Mall, the Capitol, and neighboring mid-town, it is far from dead and way above Fresno (at least when I was there a long time ago). To each their own I guess.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Detroit?
Its Downtown may be one of the best parts of the city, if not THE best part.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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The Rust Belt city downtowns are all supported by outstanding suburbs. The Back-to-the-Burbs trend will only continue to spread throughout the US as the rich/poor inner cities continue to decline.
Actually, Downtowns may be one of the best parts of said cities, as many are seeing development.
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Sacramento CA
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Sacramento's downtown is actually pretty nice, with Old Sac, K street Mall, the Capitol, and neighboring mid-town, it is far from dead and way above Fresno (at least when I was there a long time ago). To each their own I guess.

It wasn't the the greatest downtown for a while due to it being a dead zone after all the state workers went back home to the burbs and the mall having very little traffic. Now with the Golden1 Center in the heart of downtown and The Sawyer hotel almost complete the re-branded Downtown Commons or "DOCO" with restaurants and entertainment options--there is great energy and optimism surrounding the area. More projects are filling up K street with residential living and retail options which should hopefully bring a new life to Downtown that was overshadowed by midtown for the longest time.
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Old 09-07-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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Fishers, IN. This is a suburb of Indianapolis and basically bulldozed whatever downtown it originally had. While most of the neighboring suburbs have intact and nice downtowns, Fishers really doesn't have any downtown at all.
I don't recall Fishers ever having a downtown. When I left the area I seriously doubt it had more than 300 or 400 people living there.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Seriously? Detroit has a kick ass downtown, I love going there. My husband's family is from the suburbs, and while they don't go into the city neighborhoods to hang out - they go into downtown Detroit all the time.

Greektown, the cool architecture, they have the metro's football and baseball stadiums, the basketball and hockey stadium is opening in a few weeks bringing all the sports in the metro back to the core. Casino's restaurants, cool little parks.

I love downtown Detroit, it serves a huge function for the metro area. Especially now with billions in development pouring in from all sides, there's more change going on there now than there has been in two generations.

If I had to say a place with a non-functional downtown it would probably be Phoenix.
You rip on the guy for ripping Detroit wrongfully, then you rip Phoenix the same way. Brilliant.


Let me ask you, how is our downtown not "functional"? Businesses everywhere, major league baseball and basketball, convention centers, art galleries, restaurants, city parks, light rail. You don't know what youre talking about.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You rip on the guy for ripping Detroit wrongfully, then you rip Phoenix the same way. Brilliant.


Let me ask you, how is our downtown not "functional"? Businesses everywhere, major league baseball and basketball, convention centers, art galleries, restaurants, city parks, light rail. You don't know what youre talking about.
Yeah, that's a pretty lame claim. Phoenix absolutely has a functioning Downtown.

I think the issue many people have is that they see the large population of the Valley and imagine that it should be able to support a traditional, much more bulked-up Downtown.

What they don't understand is that Downtown Phoenix has a height limit due to Sky Harbor being so close, and that the City has developed over time with a very linear pattern up Central Avenue to the Camelback Corridor. The urban core is a busy place, full of jobs, activity and a growing population. Downtown is one of three nodes, anchoring the South end of all of this.

People that have never been to Phoenix have no clue.
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