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Old 09-12-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I don't know if that is an appropriate comparison, but CP3's Clippers teams had a lot of talent on them as well. So, it wasn't like it was him and one other high level player.
And all of that talent usually winds up injured in the post-season. Blake Griffin got hurt in the playoffs for the second year in a row. The year before, CP3 left the playoffs with a broken hand. Even if the Clippers had gotten past the Jazz, they would have been swept by the Warriors. Much easier to deal with the Bulls or Wizards obviously.

If the discussion is about how much daylight exists between CP3 and Kyle Lowry, then there's no point in even bringing up playoff performances since only one of these players left the court mid-game in tears after a 1-6 shooting night.

CP3 is the best pure point guard in the NBA, a 4x All NBA First Team selection, and a 7x All NBA First Defensive Team selection. He arguably deserved the MVP over Kobe in 2008. CP3 and Lowry don't belong in the same conversation.

Why Kobe Bryant Should Give the MVP to Chris Paul | Bleacher Report
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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And all of that talent usually winds up injured in the post-season. Blake Griffin got hurt in the playoffs for the second year in a row. The year before, CP3 left the playoffs with a broken hand.

If the discussion is about how much daylight exists between CP3 and Kyle Lowry, then there's no point in even bringing up playoff performances since only one of these players left the court mid-game in tears after a 1-6 shooting night.

CP3 is the best pure point guard in the NBA, a 4x All NBA First Team selection, and a 7x All NBA First Defensive Team selection. He arguably deserved the MVP over Kobe in 2008. CP3 and Lowry don't belong in the same conversation.

Why Kobe Bryant Should Give the MVP to Chris Paul | Bleacher Report
The discussion wasn't about a comparison of point guards anyway. It was about current high level players in the NBA from the Northeast.

I guess Lowry has an "out" because big man got hurt in the Eastern Conference semifinals series against Miami a couple of years ago when the Raptors made the Conference Finals. It isn't a tit for tat, but injuries occur and the Clippers still have/had other players.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I guess Lowry has an "out" because big man got hurt in the Eastern Conference semifinals series against Miami a couple of years ago when the Raptors made the Conference Finals. It isn't a tit for tat, but injuries occur and the Clippers still have/had other players.
The biggest difference between CP3 and KL is that the former will sail into the HOF on a first ballot, no questions asked. Curry and Westbrook, as MVP winners and perennial almost-MVP winners, will also coast in on first ballots. John Wall is still young and could be a 1st ballot HOFer depending on what he does between now and 30. Lowry, on the other hand, is a questionable HOFer and would need to have his highest level of play from age 31 forward. That seems unlikely.

Edit: Here's an article assessing players' chances of making the HOF. CP3 and Lebron could retire now as a lock. Wall is fighting an uphill battle. Lowry is not getting in.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...top-15-players
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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The biggest difference between CP3 and KL is that the former will sail into the HOF on a first ballot, no questions asked. Curry and Westbrook, as MVP winners and perennial almost-MVP winners, will also coast in on first ballots. John Wall is still young and could be a 1st ballot HOFer depending on what he does between now and 30. Lowry, on the other hand, is a questionable HOFer and would need to have his highest level of play from age 31 forward. That seems unlikely.

Edit: Here's an article assessing players' chances of making the HOF. CP3 and Lebron could retire now as a lock. Wall is fighting an uphill battle. Lowry is not getting in.

Hall of Fame Chances for Each of the NBA's Top 15 Players | Bleacher Report
This is nice and true, but it still doesn't make the playoff aspect wrong or that Lowry and others mentioned aren't high level NBA players from the Northeast. Shrug...
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Isn't there a Basketball forum for you guys?
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Isn't there a Basketball forum for you guys?

someone needs to shoot this thread and put it out of its misery
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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someone needs to shoot this thread and put it out of its misery
If you don't like the thread, why waste time and energy posting a comment?
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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As I've previously stated, the south, along with LA and Chicago runs basketball. It's common knowledge that the south owns football. The man considered the greatest baseball player of all time (Bade Ruth) is from the south.
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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As I've previously stated, the south, along with LA and Chicago runs basketball. It's common knowledge that the south owns football. The man considered the greatest baseball player of all time (Bade Ruth) is from the south.
Is he or is it Barry Bonds, who is from out West?(I know, I know)

If we go that route, then what about Jim Brown in regards to Football?
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Old 09-13-2017, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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And that doesn't happen with baseball?
Not with basketball.
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