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Old 09-08-2017, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Sounds like you're moving the goalpost. You're saying in history, while I've been speaking about the NBA currently. Even still, no matter how you slice it, the Greatest player in the HISTORY of the NBA is from the South (North Carolina); the player that stole his moves is from the Northeast.

North Carolina alone kills NYC.
Huh? My post dealt with history anyway and you are the one that started naming a historic player who no longer plays in the league.



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North Carolina alone kills NYC.
You're only basing this off of Michael Jordan and not only is that debatable, it's false. Especially considering Kareem Abdul Jabaar is from NYC. Saying who is the greatest is generational. Not everyone will agree with Jordan. Some will say Magic. Some will say MJ. Some will say Kareem. Some will say Wilt. Some will say Bill.

As for overall players.

New York
https://www.basketball-reference.com...ry=US&state=NY

North Carolina

https://www.basketball-reference.com...ry=US&state=NC

And I didn't even bring up Philadelphia. Basketball in the Northeast is most stronger culturally than it is in the South. Outside of North Carolina, basketball is pretty much an afterthought compared to football. By talent, the Northeast always had more than the South as a whole.
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Old 09-08-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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Sounds like you're moving the goalpost. You're saying in history, while I've been speaking about the NBA currently. Even still, no matter how you slice it, the Greatest player in the HISTORY of the NBA is from the South (North Carolina); the player that stole his moves is from the Northeast.

North Carolina alone kills NYC.
No, considering that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is from NYC and Doctor J is from a suburb of NYC(Roosevelt), among other players.

Currently, it is different, but there are a couple of solid players from NYC in the NBA like Kemba Walker and Lance Stephenson. Tobias Harris is from Long Island. If you count NYC suburbs in NJ, then you have some other players like Kyrie Irving, J.R. Smith, Kenneth Faried and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

Don't be surprised though if things change in terms of NY ballers in the future, but they will just come from other parts of the state though.
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Old 09-08-2017, 06:27 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Huh? My post dealt with history anyway and you are the one that started naming a historic player who no longer plays in the league.





You're only basing this off of Michael Jordan and not only is that debatable, it's false. Especially considering Kareem Abdul Jabaar is from NYC. Saying who is the greatest is generational. Not everyone will agree with Jordan. Some will say Magic. Some will say MJ. Some will say Kareem. Some will say Wilt. Some will say Bill.

As for overall players.

New York
https://www.basketball-reference.com...ry=US&state=NY

North Carolina

https://www.basketball-reference.com...ry=US&state=NC

And I didn't even bring up Philadelphia. Basketball in the Northeast is most stronger culturally than it is in the South. Outside of North Carolina, basketball is pretty much an afterthought compared to football. By talent, the Northeast always had more than the South as a whole.
We're having two different arguments then. The links that you posted are inaccurate, as they only show were the person was born, not where they were raised.

If we took a poll to see who the GOAT is, MJ will always win.
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Old 09-08-2017, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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I have a hard time gauging it because hockey is my favorite sport. It just seems like everybody talks nonstop about the Vikings regardless of whether they are good or bad. It does seem like the Wild are gaining on them though. I work next to Augsburg College, and last spring all the students seemed to be decked out in Wild swag. If they could blow up into a dynasty like the Red Wings or the Blackhawks they would own this town.
I am with ya that the Vikings are more popular than the Wild (it's close though), but hockey as a sport is much more popular than football.

I truly believe that the only reason the Wild aren't the most popular team is because the older generation would feel like they are betraying the North Stars.
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Old 09-08-2017, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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I am with ya that the Vikings are more popular than the Wild (it's close though), but hockey as a sport is much more popular than football.

I truly believe that the only reason the Wild aren't the most popular team is because the older generation would feel like they are betraying the North Stars.
They don't feel betrayed by the North Stars for leaving?
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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They don't feel betrayed by the North Stars for leaving?
Oh they definitely hate Norm Green, even us too young to remember the North Stars do. But the North Starts are still a big part of hockey in Minnesota, not long ago you would see just as much North Stars gear at Wild games as you would Wild apparel.

At the end of the day Minnesota should have kept the North Stars name, it would have given the feeling of the team coming back as opposed to being replaced.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:36 AM
 
Location: USA
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Oh they definitely hate Norm Green, even us too young to remember the North Stars do. But the North Starts are still a big part of hockey in Minnesota, not long ago you would see just as much North Stars gear at Wild games as you would Wild apparel.

At the end of the day Minnesota should have kept the North Stars name, it would have given the feeling of the team coming back as opposed to being replaced.
Agreed! I am a Flyers fan, and always liked when they played the North Stars. The Wild? Meh.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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football is boring. There's like 5 seconds of action then everyone resets.
I don't know why people make it sound like it's any more exciting than baseball.
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Old 09-09-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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football is boring. There's like 5 seconds of action then everyone resets.
I don't know why people make it sound like it's any more exciting than baseball.
Because it is.
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Old 09-09-2017, 01:44 PM
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Location: Miami
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And I didn't even bring up Philadelphia. Basketball in the Northeast is most stronger culturally than it is in the South. Outside of North Carolina, basketball is pretty much an afterthought compared to football. By talent, the Northeast always had more than the South as a whole.
Basketball culture is larger in the Northeast than it is in the South, but the South and West are FAR more richer in terms of natural talent. The best and most hyped HS player in the country for the upcoming class, Zion Williamson, is from South Carolina (RJ Barrett is from Canada). Then there's LaMelo Ball, a class below Zion, from California.


Most of the top prospects for the 2018 NBA Draft are from the South. Even in the NBA, majority of the star players are from the West and South.

The Northeast has a large Basketball culture, but they don't produce much talent. I like what Jelly Fam and them boys are doing though, that's certaintly been a movement that's been making waves in the Basketball community recently.

The DMV produces more talent than the Northeast as well.
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