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New York City 16 3.10%
Greater Boston 32 6.20%
Philly 38 7.36%
DC/N. Virginia 50 9.69%
Raleigh/NC Research Triangle 32 6.20%
Austin 48 9.30%
San Francisco/Bay Area/Silicon Valley 13 2.52%
Baltimore 11 2.13%
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Old 09-30-2017, 08:22 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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who knows what Amazon will do? they had no idea really how to integrate Whole Foods
That chapter hasn't even been written yet.

 
Old 09-30-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I posted previously the fact that Georgia and Texas are red states likely won’t affect their chances much. But, Alabama? After what Alabama chose for a Senate candidate last week. No way, Bezos makes major ties to that state with it’s current political climate.

If the South is selected, it’s likely a three horse race between Atlanta, Austin and Dallas.
I rather think Alabama has cooked their goose with the larger business community.

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Old 09-30-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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If it's about to be based upon incentives.....North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and/or Alabama will probably end up luring the company. From a tech job standpoint, Georgia and Alabama would probably be front runners for the Deep South. Amazon's founder already has a huge project starting in North Alabama.
Amazon has huge projects all over the country.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Downtown & Brooklyn!
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Strong but not great international airport, urban but not urban compared to most of the competition, adequate (?) but not great rapid transit, would have to be mostly car
I don't know about all that. A lot of those North Jersey cities are just about as urban as it gets in America, especially in Hudson County. That greater area (Jersey City, Hoboken, Bayonne, Harrison, etc.) is really only surpassed in urbanness by the larger Bo-Wash cities, Chicago, and SF. The subway system there is not very large, but the fact that it even has a rapid transit system is a huge deal given that many major US cities don't even have one. Plus their subway system does run through Manhattan and has lines in Midtown and Downtown with connections to many different NYC subway lines allowing easy access and commutes from NYC itself.
Then there's also the Hudson-Bergen light rail for supplement plus the NJT commuter rail which is the 3rd largest commuter rail system in the country, surpassed only by the other 2 NYC commuter rail systems (LIRR and MetroNorth). I don't think it would have to be mostly car at all. It would depend on location though. Here's how people commute to work in Jersey City (most likely location in NJ I'm guessing), taken straight from here (CD):



And here is Hudson county overall:



It's not as big on transit as the other side of the Hudson obviously, but it's pretty decent. I'm willing to bet that's below average car use for most US cities.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Center City
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I posted previously the fact that Georgia and Texas are red states likely wonít affect their chances much. But, Alabama? After what Alabama chose for a Senate candidate last week. No way, Bezos makes major ties to that state with itís current political climate.

If the South is selected, itís likely a three horse race between Atlanta, Austin and Dallas.
Well, youíve got bathroom bills, banning sanctuary cities, voter suppression and defunding Planned Parenthood hindering the chances of any city in Texas.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Center City
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I do not think TX and NC have a chance at all. Austin, CLT and maybe Raleigh are highly overrated in categories. But Georgia better not pull the BS RFRA again either.,..
Agree about TX and NC being out of the running. Hard to see anything outside of BosWash getting the prize. Chicago is great but is out in the Midwest by itself and Atlanta doesnít have the public transit to handle an influx of this size.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Agree about TX and NC being out of the running. Hard to see anything outside of BosWash getting the prize. Chicago is great but is out in the Midwest by itself and Atlanta doesnít have the public transit to handle an influx of this size.
If Amazon only wanted cities in the BosWash corridor they would have put that in the RFP.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Agree about TX and NC being out of the running. Hard to see anything outside of BosWash getting the prize. Chicago is great but is out in the Midwest by itself and Atlanta doesn’t have the public transit to handle an influx of this size.
Chicago is not by itself in a vacuum of empty space, and its connections via its major airports, rail, expressway, and even water make it one of the most strategic and logistical locations in the U.S., including above and beyond many locations in BosWash.
 
Old 09-30-2017, 07:55 PM
 
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Yeah I work in a real estate investment firm where we track trends and research all areas of the country and their markets. One theme that was really brought up in a recent meeting where Amazon came up was that realistically they are going to need 3 million metro cities or higher for the most part to be able to comfortably get in and find the workers they need, not cause chaos with the housing markets and also just to get the transit and road infrastructure and large scale economy that makes sense to dump 50,000 jobs.

In their talks the obvious short list according to them would be:

Philadelphia - strong contender
Chicago - strong contender
Boston - very tight office market, very tight employment market and high cost of living
DC - fairly strong contender, cost of living becoming a concern
New York City - very high cost of living, worried it wouldn't be a natural fit for what Amazon probably wants. Might be a little over the top.
Denver - might be too small of an office market, very very tight employment market, it would wreck the already high cost of living
Atlanta - good contender but worried about the public transit aspect, Amazon seems to be looking for more of a true urban/dense city center.
Dallas - a bit of the same as Atlanta's issues.
This is a really good list of the main contenders: the only thing I would add is Pittsburgh (as a dark horse contender) and Toronto (the obvious Canadian choice).
 
Old 09-30-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Agree about TX and NC being out of the running. Hard to see anything outside of BosWash getting the prize. Chicago is great but is out in the Midwest by itself and Atlanta doesn’t have the public transit to handle an influx of this size.
Atlanta has more robust rail service than its present HQ's, so no.

You do realize that Amazon is currently situated on a single one-way streetcar line? MARTA routinely transported over a million people daily during the Olympics, so this is obviously not an issue.
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